The Liverpool Connection Podcast

Special Guest: JAMIE WEBSTER - Liverpool Musician and Fellow Red

December 24, 2020 http://www.atxreds.com Episode 65
The Liverpool Connection Podcast
Special Guest: JAMIE WEBSTER - Liverpool Musician and Fellow Red
Show Notes Transcript

Happy Holidays! 

Daz and Steve had the pleasure of chatting with musician, Jamie Webster. Jamie discusses his love for LFC, his work with The Owen McVeigh Foundation, and his music. Visit his website at jamiewebstermusic.com or follow him on Twitter @JamieWebster94.

Holiday Greeting by renowned LFC author, Jeff Goulding. Visit https://atxreds.com/jeff-goulding/ for his bio and book purchase links.

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Greetings from Liverpool, my name is Jeff Goulding, I would like to wish a Merry Christmas and a Happy Holidays to all the listeners and guests at The Liverpool Connection & ATX Reds Press. Happy Holidays everyone. Hello and welcome to another episode of The Liverpool Connection & ATX Reds Press. I've got Mr. Steve Wilson with me and today's special guest. Steve and I have wanted him on on the show for a long time and he's finally graced us with his presence, Jamie Webster. Hello. Hello. Hello everyone thanks very much for having me guys. We're going to kick on on get straight to it. What does your Liverpool Football Club mean to you? When did you start going to the matches? If everything really, you know, ever since I was able to run since only one football was you know, I wanted to and only one football club. It was really my father's a lifelong fan. His dad was a lifelong fan and many generations before that. And yeah, it, you know, sort of my dad living me dad lived and breathed there for a long time. You know, he was an avid traveler of, you know, back in it back in the day back in his youth. He was you know, Home and Away for about 10 seasons. And you know, obviously went everywhere in Europe and stuff like that. And so it was me, it was me from from birth, you could say you know what I mean? To get to the face game when I was about four years of age, in the first one I can remember. And it was it was a friendly against Valencia, a home. And a Yeah, it was I just remember the colors and the noises more than anything. Kelsey, I think we actually got beat. But it was a preseason friendly. And then yeah, I just remember the colorism and lasers. And, you know, I was infatuated. And then like, as soon as I got home, it was like that one kind of go to the next one and stuff like that. And it's just every opportunity means I've got to take you to the game. And that'll be a little thing that we do. And yeah, sure which I've loved Liverpool Football Club since since I was old enough to to know what it was and, and, yeah, it's just their lane. You know, like a lot of people who grew up in the city, you know, it's a big thing when you go into school as a young lad in in Liverpool, you know what Football Team B support? And, you know, we went on the weekend and stuff like that, right. So from reception awkward still. I mean, it is funny. It's it's mad footballs, you know, you've only got to drive around to the local playing fields of a Saturday, Sunday morning. And then there's just hundreds and hundreds of kids playing and adults playing football all over the city. It's a no football and music is probably a massive description of Liverpool as a city in two words. So yeah, it's a it's from a young age at Liverpool Football Club, man, you know, means the world to me. And it meant the world to me back then. You know, I mean, my dream was to play from Liverpool, or playing ball for Liverpool. You know, unfortunately, that never happened or what I'm doing now not too far off it so it's a I'll take that as a second second there. Secondly, he like say hey, Jamie, thanks for coming on, man. You know, like Daz said we've been looking forward to having you on and and been following your career and it's you know, when we watch these matches, especially with this team, you know, we see Curtis Jones out there and we see Trent Alexander Arnold you know, local lads that have made it good to the first team and we kind of look at you similarly as a local you know, that obviously, and now with your music have gone from just you know, having fun playing covers it at the pub, and now you're you get to travel with the team and be part of boss night. And you know, we we spoke to Dan a couple weeks ago and he kind of told us your journey on how on his end how we saw it. So I wanted to see if you could share your way your perspective on how this all became going from just playing the guitar and do it a couple Liverpool chance and now you know, having a top selling album. And so we're just interested in see you know how you're viewing it from your end? She Yeah, I mean, it's great to be honest, it's been the fucking craziest to to use that I you know, you just said to me five years ago, when I was working when I was an electrician if you come on to a building site and said To me, you know, in five years, Sam, you'll have done, you know, you're not yet old Topsail and I'll lead up to 60,000 people in the 20s You know, you're playing in America, it's, you know, on two separate tours, you've played all these places in Europe around the world, to all these clouds, as a probably other probably told you to get lost and stop landing the opportunity and bought a, I don't know, it's, the thing was it happened, the way I see it, it happened because I wasn't saying to make it up. And if that makes sense, it was a, you know, me dream of I played in bands as a young lad, and he used to write music and stuff like that, and add to the intro long time of being like, you know, the next sort of Bob Dylan, if you like, and, you know, as I hadn't given up on those themes, but it was always, you know, I worked with as an electrician, and, you know, I just don't know, musics a bit of extra money, and a lot of former friends and stuff like that, you know, after for after games and unflagged nights and stuff. So it wasn't I'm just enjoying LIVING GOD, me being a young lad doing following me football team all around the world, as a fun and, you know, obviously, at the same time, getting to play music at home. And, you know, to me a little bit of cast to do it and playing to you know, loud and clouds in, in, you know, really rough pubs in Liverpool and stuff like that. It was just, it was just crazy experiences your need, some of the times are bad on those Friday nights alone. And I don't have to write a book, you know what I mean, but in, you know, moving on, I just like the bass line thing. So to start, I was playing in pubs. And I was traveling with, I'd started this attend about 16. And I decided that I wanted to, you know, because that started to where I had left school, I was in some money for myself, this ad with I wanted to spend that money on nothing else, but follow Liverpool Football Club, like me dad did around the country around the world around Europe. And that was what I wanted to do for the next few years of my life. And now there's a couple of meets a man who we used to, when we could get tickets, we go together and stuff like that. And we got in talking to a few lads at the match one and an away game on Sam and then said, Oh, well, we're going on the train next week to Wigan, if you want to come into the suite, we started meeting friends at the match, we're doing the same thing around that age. And then we started jumping on the cultures with with them with God. So there's like 50 lads who organized the coach themselves, and they put it on to travel to away games and stuff like that. So I got on the culture, I was quite shy about selling the lads that I was a singer, because it was quite an intimidating scene at the time, you know, like, I was just 1617 or 16 year old lads, sort of coming onto a culture there's some of the lads of 14 some of the lads have 40 you know, like some of the like the doctors, some of the lads do a legitimate things from what I mean, it's a, you know, it's just such a broad spectrum of people. And it was like a new world to me. And I was just like, it was quite intimidating scene to walk onto. But what you find with people in Liverpool, unlike that, sort of the Liverpool scene is it's got a very, very station hard ultra shell. But once you get into it, it's the warmest the most welcoming place, you know, in the world. And then I found that like, quite quickly, as you can tell, I have talked quite a lot. So I mean, I, I mean, cleanse quickly, you know, to me, I like to think I'm going to make Pearson So I just, you know, I made a lot of friends but I kept it nearly quiet that I used to play music and then one of my friends sort of, you know, can ask me often showed the lads a few videos of me playing in pubs and stuff like that. And a few the lads of the crowd was expecting everyone to start calling me like a, you know, a fake Justin Bieber or something like that, you know, to say like, yeah, that was what I was expecting. And he was just so supportive anyway, that's amazing. I've never I've never met anyone who could do anything like that, you know, like, those sorts of backgrounds in the world that they've lived in. And so that they really, they really, they're incessantly running an explainer so don't play and like before we played that got most of it was at home at the time, you know, it was just gone back 10 years now. So we had the home game on the following Saturday as everyone playing the Friday before that. And then on the Saturday night in town, so we'll come to Florida control and if you'd only good will come up with the math and see it as well do the mean so in Friday night's 4050 people come down and he started like sort of you know, do singing all the songs back with me daily daily, daily daily support me on an eight as well as the family and the friends that I've grown up with it as well but the daily daily supports me and give me a lot of confidence. And then so after the game The next day when I went to see Jamie last night and you know he was really good and you know you wouldn't expect it because he looks like a little scaly and whatnot. But back then I had skin they had shorted me and I was like typical Liverpool scaly sort of thing in the way that I looked not in the way that I acted. But the way that I looked in the way that I taught and stuff like that. And no one really had me down as a singer and a guitar player and then after the game then was 70 people there you know, and that So then where the mouth started to spread and people kept coming on Friday night to see me and then all of a sudden, and one of the lads of the coach said, well, there's these lads called Dan nickel. And you know, a couple of other lads. And they run this thing called boss night. And it's basically just lads come down and play songs that you do in the pub, but you do it after the game to like a crowd. All I do all the matching, because I've been traveling the games, I knew a lot of the people who went to these bus nights. So I got like, they asked Dan, if I could play and he gave me a little, like a 20 minute slot at the start of the bill. But I'm 2030 No, maybe. And yeah, it was a bad because all the friends that I'd sold to me at that time would come down as well on the venue only older the bulk of 150 people there's loads of people outside and travel rankly to just started to move from there. And I think it was the Brendan Rodgers either was when it really really started to become like a thing for Liverpool fans and like a thing where Liverpool song starts to get seen because of what was going on on the pitch. You know, we were challenging for the league for the first time in a good while. And you know, it was the geek geek fest 11 you know, I mean, Jet are just playing and like a deeper old swatters started show we were there to go to Jordan Anderson at the time, you know what I mean, we did a good scene. And then it just started it was it was because of the inspiration that was, you know, that we were getting from what was going on the pitch when we were playing the gig. And after the games, I'd be singing a song for example, Mrs. Robinson, both Simon and Garfunkel and Jordan Anderson, at the time is this young 2324 year old who, who is you know, you know, playing unbelievable out of his skin and the, you know, the inspiration came from a few people in the clouds are saying yes to you, Jordan Anderson friend, love you more than you will know. And, you know, I started singing it because that singer, people got the phones out, maitri people singing it on the car. And that was when they do YouTube and Twitter, things started to lay, and Liverpool FC started. So like, getting as lfctv started to get involved while you come and play this song at the end of one of our shows, that was like the first foot in the door and it was like, I didn't think much of it, I just thought, Oh, yes, and I'll be on the telly, follow me moments, all that I was going to be on the telly, you know what I mean? And they, so Mum, you know, all the subscription to lfctv just to watch that, you know, just don't watch that show. And like, that was like that was for me, that was the biggest thing that happened to me. And we live still we mean a. And it was like to me like a two minute cameo at the end of the show, while the credits would run on the show we face for like 20 seconds, but it was like, a needle. And you know, it's just I just look forward to just push the clouds at the boss nature so that both times, I wasn't like it wasn't like a case of you know, I'm gonna be a superstar with all this research, they can't wait to do that again, to the mean that like there was decent gigs that I'd never ever experienced at play and make the clouds to do so energy I took them sweating all over me spitting all over me I'm spitting all over them couldn't have another this day and age with a non believable time. And then the blessing in disguise which really sort of made me come that this you know, bring this level two out of 20 Liverpool songs to the gig was actually a job off Liverpool. So lfctv because like the you know, the momentum started to grow. And there was footage that showed and treated by Liverpool of the boss nights in the Roman run into that end of the season, we'll be talking about the league and even when we didn't win the league, we had a party as if we'd won it because become so close. And there was videos of us on on all over Twitter saying we've nearly won the league, we nearly won the league. And now you're gonna believe it's just like having a laugh at the situation. And being as Liverpool fans do, you know, when I mean win, lose or draw, you know what I mean? We'll have a good time. And we still sing and support our team through whatever we hope to. And then that was getting a bit of attraction and by lfctv. And when we started, obviously, people from around the world started wanting to come to box banks because they'd seen these retweets and stuff like that, and people started to read about it. And then they started to get bigger and bigger. And then lfctv asked me to do a documentary called Liverpool sound and it's about all the history of the songs and where the world came from. And they asked me if I'd land all songs on the guitar and sing them for the documentary. No for backing tracks and stuff like that. So that's why I don't know. Like, I would never have probably thought I'm gonna learn. Yeah, you know, when the dads go marching in and we love Liverpool and everything. I wouldn't have probably thought to learn those songs. I was just a young lad who loved playing the guitar and having a laugh while he was doing he ignored me and it was a massive Liverpool fan it never I thought these are singing songs in the ground in the stadium. We made some significant gains. That's not no one does that you know what I mean? was once a lampi songs in the documentary, I've got a bit of a reputation and pubs around Dunfield started want me to play sets after the game and stuff like that when I was boss nights, only five times a year in Liverpool. And then. So then that started to happen. And the first time I just thought, you know what I'm saying play me, Liverpool, and play them. And the nice thing is, is that he liked the cloud look that everyone loved. And it just started to become this new little cool thing that was happening, you know, and then it started to grow naturally. That's really intense game. And that's, that's how it started to go. That's the best way to describe it. And it was a long winded on scible. It's a long story to me. No, I mean, it's, you know, we're all interested in how that happens, because we've seen the progression. Right. And then you mentioned Kiev, where you played in front of 20,000 people. I've tried to forget Kiev. Totally. Right. So, and then the following year, luckily, we get to play in Madrid. And then you have 60,000 people, obviously, they're not all going to the game. And just from the videos of it, it was such a party. Can you kind of take us through that day experience and how how that all happened. And you know, the failures you have seen looking out here in a foreign country and all these people there to listen to Jamie Webster. Yeah, Michelle Kiev, who's the force in that sort of thing. I think the club majorly underestimated how big the turnout was going to be in Kiev. For that sort of events. You know, the stage was probably planned for about 2000 people, and it was probably about 15 to 20 in my path. And then she'll go on to Madrid, it was strange, because at the end of the key, at the end of the gate, they got the guy from the pool, Tom Cassidy, who's become a good friend of mine. And he's the head of tourism at Liverpool. He said to me, you know, if this happens again, we'll do it properly, we'll do it big, we'll do it. Like, you know, think Glastonbury sort of thing. You know what I mean? Like, we know the scale that we need to do that now. And then we got, we've got an announcement date. And we obviously we were in the knockout stages, and we resorted to his conversations with Remi diamond song Cassidy. And we resort to Texas, if it's me today, it's going to be massive, because people it's very easy to get to Spain, from from England and from many other parts of Europe and, and, you know, the world, whatever. It's not, it's not a hard place to get to, you know, if you want to sell when you're from Texas, if you go into South America, nearly everywhere flows from South America, you know what I mean? And so, it's, it's not, it doesn't have to be massive. So it was so when the Barcelona game happens, I thought that way, like, you know, after that game, I taught I played the boss night before that, obviously, I thought, that's gonna be my last gig and you're off till next season, they'll join me like, that's, that's a and a, no, coming off the ground. You know, the gig in Madrid? No, it's, it was a building on the, you know, in the Batman at this gig, and it was put a lot of pressure on me actually, that I might have this unbelievably scaled game to play. And like, while I was excited, it was also quite nervous, nearby and sad. So there was a bit of sadness, but like, it's gonna be tough to overcome this Jordan mean, and there was a bit of relief that like, you know, stop worrying about it so much now. And you know, like, everyone was asking me questions, you know, what are we doing in Madrid? And I couldn't speak a bit because like, you know, we that the verbal agreement, he wouldn't let anything leak until it was all in place and whatever. So then obviously, that makes it on field so it was it was the last thing I thought about at the end of the night because obviously I wasn't voting to get the game everyone's talking about what happened. It was like and then at the end, I played a gig after it you know, when the halfway house and I played that big and then someone said to me at the end of the cake, see it in Madrid lights and I went oh my god, I'm gonna be playing You know, this disc and it was just a fucking joke to me like what? I couldn't couldn't couldn't even pitch it because I was thinking how big is it gonna be? What's it gonna look like and be sure to vary like the me the build up to it was like, we had a lot of gigs all in the build up to we don't have a lot of islands we had like a leaving a farewell party in Liverpool in like in the convention center next to the arena. And like, so I was working flat out and it was only like, I'd like two or three days before where I realized like shit, like this is this is getting close. Now you know what I mean? And it was like, depression of like, you know, doing the gig but then this gig could be go down as one of the greatest days in like, Liverpool fans s3 if we win the European Cup as well. Join me because Kiev was quickly not quickly forgotten about what some people still talk about. But a lot of people don't which is fair enough now which fair enough to to mean like that the grounds be open syllabus so blue for the kickoff it was an unbelievable day. But then you know after that it was a full so I wanted this date to be talked about was like one of the greatest days ever potentially do mean and a tranquility like you know, we got there really early in the morning to the square. I'd like to get the night before for the club and match up with the lunchroom boss like the following morning because they flew in on the date but they flight and in. We met up in the air actually went to the ground at eight o'clock in the morning to do an interview for lfctv. A, as I opened the list at half, seven and one this is actually good story this open the list of seven in the morning. And my hotel was like the sponsored hotel for the Champions League. Put me open for play I was playing in the hotel last night. So like Halo when people like that we're staying in the hotel and Stevens and others are probably staying in the hotel Phil Thompson people like that. So I opened the lift doors. And there's a guy with a video camera and the European Cup influence me and I I stood back and it was Hynek and others. And a I said is that the real European code? And he said yeah, yeah, it's a real one. It says, I don't believe you is the names. And he said that on the backside. Yeah. Do you want to touch it and move it around and said, Well, no, I'm not touching that. You know what I mean? No way. And I said, I'm getting in the next lift. And so the first thing that's even in the morning, that might just be your vehicle. And then it went to the stadium, whatever dummy interview, then it got to the square and I'd seen the shadows in the stage and I was like well this is like we don't have soundcheck there was practically 20 people or so then we were in a plane in Biondi. And I was like, I waited till he had some breakfast and stuff, walked away from the spear come back. And just just the crowd was just me. It was like he just said that while we went for breakfast The only mean and then the nerves and the excitement's as the day was glowingly You know, it was just the I was thinking like this is potentially gonna be the biggest day of my whole life still with me and they just does not matter I'll be lucky to see another day like this God mean like me life and and have an experience like this the family were sad to say to their friends and sad as the oldest normally fenders and maybe it overdone it was just was an unbelievable like the build up to watching john power play from cast play and you'll never walk alone. Like our two in the day three o'clock in the day and seeing gold men cry like I was trying so john Manning played Yes. Economy it is coming down the as it was like, this is just unbelievable. And it just I was thinking to myself, there's no fucking way that we're not gonna win this your vehicle today. It's not like not today. not happen. Sorry. Like, you know, like, and the thing was key Evan sets us in good stead like talking about in dreamland. But we've been in non territory that they don't want me in and like, you know what I mean, we knew what we wanted so, so when you're being corporate haven't had that bitter bitterness in the year before. And those plays We ain't gonna have that same taste in their mouth. That makes it has never happened. It's gonna be champagne. You know what I mean? And you're being cool. And yeah, it's all comes down to the time when we blame the police nearly shut it down because of the sound levels about 15 minutes before they went on. Peter Moore, actually, other stare where the police and he actually said to the police, if you should face down now you're not going to have problems with sound over 400 miles on your arms. He was late because those are gonna go mad if they don't get to see Jamie Billy and it's a treat to see who's obviously worked in you know work at Bill Gates and people like that say like, say something like that about me it was quite a nice nice feeling in itself. And so I walked out onto the stage and I've got a friend who's a professional boxer. And like I said to him, that's the only way I can probably relate to what you do. After coming off that you know, I it was a ballet, it was just unbelievable. It was just I just remember seeing playing Van Dyck song. The only memory I have a plane the van like song and La la la I don't remember anything else. And I had another drink another drop of alcohol or a drug or anything like that. I was still stay and the adrenaline and everything just carried me like to me like I'm just remember those moments seeing that you seem to be older than they were when when it kicks in. And you see in the 60,000 people jumping up and down it was just like an ad like playing La La you can either click on me but you should the only thing I was like that was holding me tears and you want I mean it was like and then at the end of the gig I let out this. This like subtle one i said i just seen loads of loads of words and all the swear words and just like let let everything I had in the last out and the like literally walked off the stage and just make me girlfriend mistake of dishonesty yourself and make it of the stage and just burst into tears. It was just not on I wasn't sad I was unbelievably happy but it was just like the like the feeling between the cloud myself whenever you're on stage the army like Sean, Sean Elstone I mean have shown that like, probably looking to feel again what to do. The only other people from Liverpool Neufeld, sort of like the Beatles in my opinion you know what I mean? Like all Liverpool's fares team Jordan mean like it's biryani like it's something nice and I'm very lucky to be able to have experienced it and then like my fellow with the European Cup was like you know we had no I had gone into the ground like drained like literally drained like I couldn't I had a little bit of a disguise on because obviously like that that I couldn't eat like after the gig and stuff that was like I just got mugged and like I was same sex with everyone as you know you know what I mean? I'm quite an a face and when you meet me and stuff but I was in the ground couldn't wait. I thought I just need to get to the seats I'm exhausted I'm gonna collapse and so I had like a scarf around me and like a red hat on and you know sunglasses and stuff got to me seats and then soak it all up and like a couple of people around me now I was sound and I wasn't bothered I was in the seat everyone was like you know we would be blocked for scores and early goals celebrated and then that person that gave I was stood there like absolutely nothing I just remember some fella next to me and like it was like a superior Tottenham appeal but nonetheless you know as soon as we can see see, I was a fella next to me like an older fellow john I mean and he stood up he said, hey, that's command this is we're gonna have to do something like we will open this up to you So come on by no that's fucking give them it. Let's give them that last five minutes showed me the needles Yeah. And like it woke me up and like we all do stood up together like collectively they all end when we were just, you know we would Northerners on and like you know what I mean? We started making a salary. A goal you know what I mean? goes in on the legs pumped back into the AMA where you can endure like pandemonium tears lifted Sophie. Then I had to go and play the players celebration party after the game and a like, show where they stay. They stay below as soon as walking back to get onto the coach. I'm Phil Thompson banging on the windows or the coach. Like he was in Istanbul and banging on the windows or the cold see me and I was on his couch and I jumped on a cold to pair it was a rolling around on the bus or we need to open like this is a European Cup winning captain. You know what I mean? Because I've got his wife in a headlock. You know what I mean? Like it was just absolutely It was unbelievable. And a Lakeshore metal with Miguel family goes to the party and acts to take stage ready to defend their next thing. Let's say for the European Champions john Anderson literally kicks the front kicks the door open, runs him at the European Court and they start playing La la la as they come in and the players are singing along with me dancing Jonah mean like everyone interested so then like finish me send me little sets of plays and have an anomaly with the family friends. Everyone's you know, just it's just don't believe that. You know, all the x plays in the Stephens yards there. You know, like, Robbie Pham stood at a table with Robbie Fallon on old wounds in filled songs people like this just thinking to myself what is happening here, and then I was making a beeline to average smoke. And a club was like sort of stood in a doorway. Like obviously I met you again the first time lens on preseason tour. And like briefly Jordan told me and he said and he said the you know each being a with me and so then he was going to all sorts of people you know, but like not bother number one a piece of him shall we say? So I didn't want to do I just put me under my shoulder and said you're gonna just want to say thank you and he turned to me and said what I just just want to say thank you may still thank you so much like have a great nice you know, enjoy he does speak and he just slapped me across the footballs like that and he said no thank you call me out and they give me a massive hug and I said I'll do it again. This is me bear with me till and he was like allow Jamie's bed give me bear the big old pick there will be a I haven't washed my cheeks in slightly so they're like that was that was in a nutshell like me and then pebbling has come over and like give me the European Cup to get a photo with your mean and like you know let me have a look at his medal and stuff like that and other proper chat with me like me you know, I didn't want to buy the egg and yank it egg was open for the chat but additionally you know like I knew that you know he was gonna have people on him all night I was like you sign enjoy yourself gentlemen. I didn't even bother the players said hello to Allison because I got to play guitar with them and she said congratulations. Stanley Robbo said the same to him. Everyone else I left alone because people getting absolutely no matter By all sorts of spouses who snuck into the party and stuff like that, you know what I mean? It was just like, it was unbelievable night. So, got one photo with the European Cup, just before we left and find the last thing is the first thing I've seen in the morning was the order being cool. And the last thing I've seen and like, before I went to bed was European Cup. And I was just thinking to myself, a five o'clock in the morning, it was this time actually, and a bigger events, just let me know. And I was just thinking, I made up, I never touched it in the morning, you know, before the before the lift. But yeah, it was a bad day, like, for as long as I've got a memory that'll be up there with one of the best days of my life tulameen. And kids wanted the kids for their grandkids to anyone to walk past them asleep. You know what I mean? It's, it's, you know, people will be intensely sad when I'm not doing this anymore, people will be full of my mother's story, Jonah mean, but on cilan, you know what I mean, I'm going to run it down. Because it really was just a unbelievable day. You know, we're very fortunate that Liverpool decided to come back to the United States in 2019. Because normally, they would alternate between the United States and then having a GRS trip, right. So we're very fortunate that a couple months after we win the European Championship in Madrid, you're taking the the team is taking a tour of the United States, you get to come along with the team. And then, you know, I was fortunate enough to meet you at Boston. And what a great boss night that was in Boston, I know is not in Madrid. But that that energy in that in that little House of Blues was so fantastic. You know, everybody was having a good time. You know, you're there with the legends and with the Anfield Wrap guys, and it was such a such a great party. Can you kind of give us some some insight on your experiences whenever you come to the United States and how you find the level of enthusiasm for for your, your music and just the the team in general? Yeah, well, it was, you know, like, a steel musician with me of like, 14 1516 you know, that your dreams are to go and play places like the House of Blues in Boston and sold out shows in America and stuff like that. That's, that's the dream for every musician, your means it's bacon mat Academy. And it's not quite the same thing as doing like, you know, I'm not, you know, it's not quite Bruce Springsteen, you know what I mean? But it's a, you know, to the excitement for me to go over there and do it was like it I've never been more excited to travel and play anywhere else do you want to mean, besides the Madrid thing, because the the magnitude of it for the face and going on tour to America was like, I remember getting a phone call. And I couldn't believe it. You know, I mean, that was like, the best pleasants anyone's give me a means. So you're going to go toward an American face. And I went out there. And it was, I played the first gig in Charlotte's, which isn't too far from you guys. And it's not exactly close. But, you know, it's, it's, it's south, compared to where else we've ever been. And, and yeah, it was, you know, I wasn't quite sure what to expect, you know, what I mean? The it was the town and itself in the data and was like, you know, I think a lot not many people live in the town of Charlotte, I think love to live outside the city and stuff like that. So it's not a typical New York or Boston or anything like that. cypresses either. it you know, it was I didn't know what to expect, you know, I've got to the venue and then I'll have to be on sand open. You know, I'm sure not everyone knew where I was at that point. Because Kiev wasn't the magnitude of where I was shocked that people knew who I was. And like, I was playing the real songs that they could be singing the Pope's did not many people would go into Anfield knowing those people they're seeing and then on the front row, given it, you know, word for word, and it blew me mind join me and I didn't. I knew that. Like we had a massive following all over the world. And I knew it was big, but I didn't think it was to be extensive. You know, I was looking at kids there and some of those kids are 20 years old, you know what I mean? And they were thinking all these you know, this is this isn't what what I thought it was gonna be I wasn't any disrespect, but I just I thought just be you know, like you know, a lot a lot song down and people would just pay for the football and didn't think people would be there for the culture side of it as well. Joe and Joe and Shane. It was a real real eye opener and it was merely well hold on one you know what I mean? And when I got back there the next year in 2019, like you shared this feeling like it had been turned on by like 5000 year old Amina, I found no walking down the street in Boston. You know, I had travelers jumping over the pub, you know she'll call me for photos and stuff like that. It was you know, I felt like one of the Beatles it was a it was amazing and sissy like to go to the games over there and see the the atmospheres in like your family parks and stuff like that. It was just it was it was great. You know what I mean? Even when we done the big obviously before in a Michigan, you know, against Man United. I mean, it was really enjoyed it. It was gonna eat that one as well. When I sat in the car that day, just read all of So what I mean, and it was good was the arguments between the builder man, you know, you know, it was like absolutely no it was I was laughing. I was I felt lazy. And it was felt like almost the same over the mean. And it's a doozy gig and he also brews like the atmosphere for that was just incredible and I knew it was gonna be good based on and based on what I've done when we went to South Bend, Indiana because we've done a couple of gigs there and the action from the cloud is phenomenal what I knew Boston was obviously more of a stronghold for Liverpool fans anyway in the US, so I knew that the sport was going to be bigger than my friends went to Boston. The last time he went on preseason, just like as fans on the tour, and he said like, it was modeled with a gun on a meanie Navy, like pick, and it was like, quite fanatical. So to do the blues gigging. And, you know, people singing along with me, people chanting the name and, you know, sharing the stage with like, all those legends like Ian moosh, Paddy, Paddy and bloody David, the lads of my generation, you know what I mean? Jason, it is a good friend of mine now. And he's just, it was it was amazing to get to know Jason like, it was a great experience. And just to represent this the club in the city again, to stage 2000 1000s of people sellout show House of Blues Jordan mean, like it was, you know, I would never have done it ever. And I just want to say thanks to everyone. But people like yourself and everyone who come down in there, you know, because it's not English, these gigs nights, you are, you have to make that gig as well. It's not just what I do, I have my passion for Liverpool Football Club, and what I mean, and I will always display that on the stage when I'm singing about the football club, because I can't hide it just come loads, or differences when you call as a cloud, if you just stand there and watch and fill me. And let me sing with your name. Because it's all about the back and forth between me and you. And so, to use a common law, and basically bring it just as I did you know what I mean? Like, I was like, there was, you know, 2500 versions of me singing back to me, you know what I mean? It was, that's what it wasn't a, it doesn't work without the cloud. So thank you to everyone who came in, and, you know, made it an unbelievable night, it's another makeup, you know, I don't know, if I'll ever get to plate, like on a stage like that no matter what, again, you know, it's like that. I don't know, you know, I mean, no one knows what's gonna happen, you might you'd like to see. So you know, with the massive draw that Liverpool FC has bought, you know, you can't you don't know what's gonna happen tomorrow day, you know what I mean. And now until, until I do it again on Sunday, with bigger and better that will want to that will always be one of the best speech that I've ever played. You know, it's funny, because by the end of the night, because that day started with the training, you know, and obviously, we had talked about the players being delayed, and then they finally get to the, to the stadium to train. And it was like, the hottest day ever in Boston, it was like 100 degrees out there. And we're standing there watching the players. And then by the time we get to the House of Blues, everybody's just been out in the sun all day, they've been drinking, it was just, you know, a major piss up. So by the time you came on, you know, it was all ramped up, I think I ended the night with no shirt on in front of the stage. So yeah, we appreciate it. And, you know, it's so it's so funny, because, you know, we brought 50 people from Austin over to Boston to, to see the team and to watch you and, and it's such a great atmosphere. And so we, you know, we appreciate you that have been coming over here. And we hope that once this wins this COVID scenario passes, you know, you'll be back over to the states and playing and we can come watch it. So, yeah, well, we had a few shows booked in and, you know, throughout this, you know, when we were supposed to win the league as normal in May, last year, you know, but that May to September or May to August, there was a couple of us shows, I mean, potentially, well planned and ready to be announced, but unfortunately, they all have to get pulled and then but it's definitely something that I'm not allowed to boss night. very keen to get back home to the states and Liverpool are keen to take me back home to the states and an older, you know, if there's other people in the state to make contact, so like my management's and my booking agent to try and get me out in the state. So, you know, I think it's fair to say that it will happen again, it's it's definitely a it's not goodbye it's just you know, so long for now, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's just I can't thank everyone enough who was who's made the experiences you know, delayed for me because like I said, it wouldn't happen without the it never happens without the crowd doing their best generally mean you know that from from spending the time you know, going unfilled and you see how the caliber of carry the team it's exactly the same for the musician. Yeah, thanks for making me Be where he is he barely you know what I mean? It says some of it I mean, it's it's insensitive a, like, you know, energy you know, it's very very much hard work but in terms of like, the actual performance it was very easy because he's made it easy for me and you know like it's a musician's things are played to the crowd like us that night and never forget it well and Avenue on now, you know, not only talk about Liverpool Football Club gotta talk about the album which which is fuckin amazing by the way you know not just because you're on that I listen to it every day like it's getting worn out and that with what some of you were yeah influences you say you know that you're fascinated like with Oasis and Liam john lennon and Bob Dylan. What fascinated you about them? Is it is it especially like Liam has his swagger just like on stage presence. And you know what, with Liam, I think a face that was his voice, the back of me because it was solely different. Probably similar to Glenn. You know what I mean? And then another very distinctive voice. Likewise, Bob Dylan, they've got very distinctive voices. They're not necessarily going to places like Pitch Perfect, you know, tenor voices, Zeleny couldn't sing in choirs. These fellows bore, you know, doing what doing what they which is slightly self, I'd like to think not, I mean, it's a it's, it's to be had something about them to remain and it was a lot and at the time, definitely wish, his attitude, you know, obviously, as a 1415 year old teenager, you know, you've got to move on after shooting. And so you know, not that everyone says into, into into William Gallagher, and at some point as being a teenager in England, like he told me, he could probably vouch for that yourself neat. You know, what I mean? And with you, especially to see that you're particularly in jacket and stuff like that we all know, you've I don't know, at this phase still remain. So I still have. Yeah, when everyone goes to mean, and I think always for like, too long. Later on, people talk about, you know, music was like an addiction to me, you know, it can become an addiction. When you talk about drug addictions, you talk about gateway drugs. And I think always from a gateway gateway drug to the addiction of music. You know what I mean? It was like, the the oatmeal has upset me mom wanted me to play guitar when I was young. And I hated it. I wanted to play football. Because Elaine's you know, she may be laying go to lessons and stuff like that. I stopped playing, I was about 10. I was like, No, I'm not doing that anymore. Or when I got to 14, I picked the guitar back up. And I, you know, we finger still remember the couple of little things. And that set me in good stead to then teach himself to do what I wanted to do. And it got me back always just got me back, got me to pick back. It's our hope you know what I mean? And it could be old, obviously. And then it was like the Bob Dylan stuff was what made me realize that like, you could do it for a living, you know what I mean? Because all Bob Dylan was doing was playing a few chords, and writing about the life and selling the truth, and just, you know, being himself or in a song. And, you know, it's not rocket science what he's doing you don't have any any other normal evil way of telling long stories and not rich I don't think anyone will ever surpass that level. Well, in terms of a talent stories and songs, Bob Dylan, for me is the ultimate troubadour if you like an older man, but he was the one who made me think, mixed in with the Oasis and obviously the Beatles coming from a city and bands like the liars and stuff like that. And always being five normal lads from Manchester. There's always that's what gives you the belief to think that you can do it, you know what I mean? You don't have to go to a private music school to be German, you don't have to be able to read music and play 12 instruments to to be successful. Or it was what gave me the the age and, frankly, for me disorderly samples that I was not allowed in with me made sure. You know, obviously, the liver pills are very sort of socialist left wing sort of city, Jonah mean. So I was I was gaining all sorts of perspectives from the experiences that I was sharing and the people that I was spending time with. And that was given me like, you know, know, what the Tory governments should know. shitting on the city, Liverpool town after shitting on the people of the clumsy town after town after town, you know, as a young lad, that was something that I was deeply passionate about, and it was giving me fuel for fire me songs for me young age. And then obviously they immigrated funny enough was led to me doing the album because the fellow who set the stage for his Abrams runs a festival in a bill called Sound City. And I met him on the plane, but I didn't know who he was. And he sat next to me and I saw consume and it had him laughing. We were laughing. We were claiming sovereign wealth, all sorts of stuff, you name it, and I was like, they're really well, and at the end of the plane at the end of the day, and he said carry on the work because I made it really incensed to me and like, you know, I might have something of weird for you. And when you get back and I say movie for who you don't mean. And He only said, Oh, well, I own stance, it's the I also own a record label, you know what I mean? And all that sounds whenever you come to see me play tomorrow and stuff like that, you know, I set the stage up and stuff like that. So they'll get you. And they show us the army on stage that day. And he left to go to the stadium stage after the gig. So I didn't see him. But he just said to me and just said, Let's make a bet, hold straight after the gig through the mean. So I was also coming home to sign it, I thought it would mean an A. So he come to the practice room, and he listened to all the songs that I'd written open to that points and basically handle paradise, this patient order the nail, and you just said, then I've got an album there, mate, let's just see what comes out in the next. You know, I mean, we'll get you to cordon, we'll get you settled, we'll you know, we'll let's see what now I just started making music, I don't know, because I quit my job, just before I went to Madrid, because the gigs that I had booked in over the song and stuff like that, I was just like, I'm gonna do this whole time. But to me, the name starts to become reality, just before Madrid, and then what follows, which shows all over the world and, you know, just gigs in different countries or different supporters club, see, you know, playing, you know, writing record now wins. And just, we like to change them yet. And thankfully, when it comes down to the album, being sad, about fair the iTunes to choose from, you know, basically about what was happening in, you know, between the ages, between the ages of 14 and where I am now, not just to me, but to all the people that I was seeing in Evernote. So all the little things that I've learned, it was all put down. And we just chose what we thought were the strongest 12 songs. And, you know, we made an album and, you know, the support that I gained off, obviously, the Liverpool fans of the platform that I built, there was phenomenal that that that gave me a leg up in in this league takes away their autonomy. But it was also a hindrance in some ways, because I had a lot of people who didn't necessarily like Liverpool Football club music, who were reluctant to listen to the music because of that connection. And because of what they'd seen before, and he assumed it was all about LFC. And I've always said, I'm going nowhere in the LFC world, I will always play these games, a little group football club just as much as any little fun. So to be able to travel the world playing the songs with the team, to fellow fans playing all easy. Why would they tell why they stopped doing that, you know, I would never stop there. I'm always gonna be there. But at the same time, I'm trying to just start sorting alongside its own separate to it. That just shows a little bit of me as a musician, not me as a rally caller, you know what I mean? It's just a little bit of difference. And I've been that thankful that all the fans all over all over the world and in the city, you should call of duty that Lego been put me on those platforms where other people can me and it's completed the album went down very well. Yeah, I see. Yeah, you know, some of the reviews really, like. Amazingly, just because, like, there's one from happy people music that said, we get by his poetry from the streets. And that's gotta make the field, you know, fucking great, you know, because they are heartfelt Jamie. Because even with this place, you know, when you when you're saying my city, my people my heart, I know, you're singing about Liverpool, you know, but as people in Bangladesh, Austin, Texas, if they love their city, that's exactly the same, you know, so it just resonates with everyone. But I immediately said that just because, like, I, I was actually like, late in this place and finish this place in, in New York, say, Sam or come to Liverpool, I'd gone there with Liverpool on the first places and so on. And I was writing about, like, you know, it's about you know, always being proud of where you come from. And I was visiting all these amazing places in the world, you know what I mean? But I was always very, you know, it was the city that I came from with Give me that Lego to go there. And, but I was also wanting to open that, like, people want to play the people that think about their own cities everywhere from them. that exact thing, you know, it doesn't matter whether you're from Liverpool, London, Tokyo, New York, Dublin, Madrid, yourdomain, whatever, you know, it's about you know, and being like remembering that that sort of Lego plate you've had in life and that that that those steps that led you to where you are now you want to me and I made some legal he said that he at least one because that was the whole life. But it wasn't, it wasn't a mallet. And for me, it was a song about Liverpool because I'm from Liverpool, and didn't want it to be perceived as just that song about the opponent because it's about home basically, you know what I mean? It's, that's what it's about. So yeah, is right. And, and, you know, it does resonate, you know, with the working class as well. And, I mean, especially for me, you know, cuz I'm from farm So, you know, I grew up through Thatcherism and then common over there, and then growing up, you know, well, then through the trumpism now, it you know, less than two, something's gotta give as well, it just like it hits record, because, you know, both both countries at the moment are just going through through so much shit. And that having a lesson to your album, just kind of, you know, tops it a little bit for me and you because it, it's, it's not just for young people, it's for old people as well, you know, I'm 50. And when I listen to your album, I feel like a kid again. And it's very weird to because and the reason why I moved in the states as well as is my mom passed away with cancer. And I was going to get a tattoo when I was 20. And it was my city, my heart, my mom, you know, so. So when I first heard you do those lyrics, I was like finale speaking to me, I still haven't got the tattoo, by the way, but and it's just crazy out how mad like because I love the album. And because you've got some bluesy folk in there that you've got some like rockabilly and Americana in there. And it's just a matte album, you know, to listen to from the first shock to the last Chuck. And it talks about everyday life. That it's it's one where you're there, you know, at the end of the song, you're quite happy. Yeah, but I mean, what does? Yeah, it's like the journey that I had to take, you know, maybe something's got to give, in particular to come to a point where I was like, how Saturday one day and on satellite song when I was thinking a concept. And then like, I looked on the phone, and I scrolled up before, and it was like, like a news shortage suggested for you thing. And the first picture is Donald Trump headline about him, and the picture underneath Boris Johnson and a headline about him. And I was like, out of these two people, the most powerful people in the world what happens? You want me What are we got here? Do you want me and so that was the sort of got to give sort of thing you want. I mean, and and I was ready to come from, but a Yeah, it was gamigo like the album as needed, like yourself and flowers, the like, the style of the music goes, it's just like, whatever comes out, I listen to all sorts of music, I've got all sorts of influences. And in the answer, whatever comes on through shorter, we size, we started to structure the album that way, but like, it tells a story Jonah mean, and, and like, so at the end of the story, the concept is normally and you do you do deal with a lot of shifts in life, but you get through it, and you'll enjoy the good times join me. And that was the summarize. And sort of that was the summary of the album in we can the population we get by, you know what I mean? Like we can the pilot basis, the question of is it working for you, if it is working for you, and you're enjoying yourself, Sam, but if it's not waiting for him, it's leading you down bad roads, you know, call it quits and find someone else. And then we get by your songs or, you know, you'll be all I mean, it will be fine. And obviously, there's the big political and sort of picture the, you know, the different sorts of twigs society in the earlier stages of it. And then, you know, the breakthrough point we grinding the gears leading into like this place then under God so sad that the album, that was when I went forward, you know what I mean? And there yet, so I made that it, obviously that was I was hoping, I was thinking, the way I sat down and thought, you know, push more work and plus people's models than it is not working class people. They, they see the same thing that I've seen, you feel the same things I've seen. So if it was a good time to listen to it, I'm sure that it will resonate with them sure made you or me, maybe not everyone, but a lot of people. So the fact that you know yourself and, you know, people, you know, only comments from people from all over the place and not you know, from all over, you know, people who don't even like football people who do hate the Liverpool Football Club, you know, we've all come and show me massive support for the album. And, you know, it's it was it was massively important for me because while I, while I love what I do with Liverpool, there is more to me than Then did you start your domain and it's not it's not as snigger or what I'm doing with the book is a little bit and it's not a snigger to any of the fans or anything that I've recruited along the way because they say, I'd be nothing I wouldn't be without them people and, you know, give me some of the best times of my life but at the same time, I just want you know, if you're looking for sort of more, I've got it you know what I mean? When I like to think I've got it, you know what I mean? And hopefully hopefully the next few albums will and I'll follow suits and just do that. A lot more to come from me and Sam in Bolton. LFC Well, Jamie Webster known and Shawn later Well, the Jamie Webster on, you know, this whole path and say, Take them both as far as possible. You know, once all these COVID polyx is over, we can have, we can have some proper parties to remain and, yeah, that's what I'm looking forward to next. Yeah. So I noticed, you know, when you were gonna do get off, which, obviously, you know, you got canceled until next year, and you were put in, you know, no Liverpool songs on your posters. Because, you know, yet you had a Liverpool supporter and people, you know, mostly know, you from doing Liverpool songs. But like, you say, You're more than that. And yet, you know, in the middle of this, have you set your own fucking play, you know, poor scalps, or stuff like that? Because it that's you, you know, that there's no, I would sync this to Jamie's, you know, there's a J, and that'll do the Liverpool songs. There's a time for that. And then there's a time for your own music. And by the way, congratulations on that. Did you sell out tonight? Yeah, it's on Saturday, Saturday night. Yeah. And you were doing a hunger 34 I but now it's at the Olympia. No, no hunger. The Olympia is next year. So they've all sold out for next year. But the hunger 34 shows after shows. Yeah, they're socially distance events don't mean we'd like to see the tables. But the Olympia is something like it's just that hopefully, you know, I'll be in mass gatherings allowed and stuff and that they sold out for next year, which was phenomenal. So we don't we haven't said they don't which is nearly sold out again, which is, you know, brilliant. But like you touched on everything football zones, like when I'm doing my music. You know, I said before, I have people who don't necessarily like Liverpool Football Club with Donald's connections with proof of work, look, coming down to those gigs. So I'm gonna play postcards with Tommy in the middle of the sense I'm alienating those people. And like, what I'm trying to say is, well, it's me Liverpool. FC music is inclusive. to Liverpool fans, you know what I mean? Me own music is inclusive to Liverpool fans, Everton fans, man, United fans join me while whoever you support. It's not about me, it's not about it's not about football, it's about life. You're the man you're beside the life of a football. You know what I mean? And, and I suppose I'm lucky that I get to sing about football and sing about, you know, the, the parts of a child, you know, not many people do so just as again to try and say thank you to everyone who usually respected the fact that I have tried to, you know, start off a little side project and I'm not a side project shot and you know, starts off with the difference and, you know, same roll with it and the support I've received for it's been overwhelming and it gives me the confidence to do it even more, you want me and at the same time, it makes me realize that Liverpool funds have helped me do this and you know, that the to be appreciated. So what you have what what was there? The concept you know, to do the the life and part pastiche studios, was it just your need to kind of do to alive Live Set Jordan, this pandemic? Yeah, well, the aim, the live gig was actually supposed to be supposed to it's a live gig that was filmed and it was for, for lockdown for like people who bought the album and stuff like that, you know what I mean? It was on a platform called guest house, it was like, thank you, for people buy me out when they do the login code and stuff like that. Because we've done it, like obviously recorded it all properly. But as we do a port like lab record, now, the engineer who's been acknowledged is also a very, very good producer. So we just decided to like, March, we were gonna do the gig, we'd record the audio and if it was worth doing, why not just throw it out for people to get like, a sort of live aspect of the album, you know what I mean, just for like, if the ones that we weren't, like, we were important out there to break the charts, we're just putting it out there for the collectors and, and the people who wanted a little bit more, you know, little bit, a little bit of a different aspect to the album, if you liked it that much. I mean, and that was all it was, it was just just like something to keep people engaged. And you know, for the for the people who were missing loud music, you know, sort of doing a live albums and say it all around Christmas and stuff like that. So that was the open down a bit nearly just just just to keep things moving. And, and whilst they couldn't play a live game to give people the experience of it more than anything else. And yeah, so just it is it sends songs in the album. And just yet, just just a, like a different sort of, not a different spin. They still sound the same songs, but it's just a lot more more germane. And like, you know, probably what you'd expect just what you'd expect. You know, think of what to expect if you come down to see me out at any of the shows when I'm playing with the band and non football songs. That's Good insights as to what you're going to expect you're on, I mean, but at the beginning basic is that we have room full of people and back attacks and stuff programmed in. So it's going to sound like the album. But with that the live experience, you want to meet me sweating and running all over the stage. Like, I'm used to doing your mean. So, A, yeah, to anyone who wants a copy of that. There's an old some of them, I've gone out to the States, thank you very much again, a, you know, the support never never fails to amaze me out there. It's it's just, you know, he never needs you're never out and about I just think of all like the messages I get on the regulation and people out in the states and all over the world, as well as the people in this country and in this city, you know, what I mean? And it always makes you feel better about yourself and always wanting to counsel you know, thanks for your support and in every single way, right from the start right up to now it's, it doesn't go unnoticed. And, you know, I'll always try my best to make you feel welcoming and appreciated. And next, I actually want to talk to you about because you work with a lot of local charities, don't ya? And put in a layer lay out, you know, basically, you get no money from it. It's just proceeds to the local charities. And we've had mark on and then the Owen McClay foundation. Absolutely class fella and just I couldn't say you know, more about Mark just you know what he's gone through as well. But he's got the biggest heart How did you come about with the with that? Well, I actually, la la la was done for an alpha loser. That was a friend of mine. coblenz like losers stolen slay calm and away match golden era message a lot older than me, decided to quit his job starts at Yachty for the good of the people in the city of Liverpool. So whilst it was a Liverpool song, it was a very grassroots shout as he would like not much fun than you know what I mean? She was a Liverpool song. I thought it was fitting me I'm done from Boston. I thought it was fitting that the song should look after the people in Liverpool. Not me. German and Dan shouldn't line up it should lie. You know, I can't write songs about being away from cross man of the people from seeking all that you know, taking songs that other people have written and putting all the money in your pocket, you know what I mean? It was a it just wouldn't felt right I wouldn't be able to go through with it. So it that's what it does. For an alpha there's not least nearly 50,000 pounds of beta alanine which is which is amazing for that other thing. And then McAfee actually met some has a meet and there's a bit of a obviously like, you should seek his lab on the match. And, and a friend of mine, Adam cans, he knows he knows the flags on the coffee's part of the spioenkop 1906 lads and basically, m orwin used to help hold the flags for some of the lads you know he used to love doing it when he was on the car. And then mark Coleman spoke to me Muay Thai them and just said like basically Me, me lads used to help us carry this deflects on the company always passed away. And you know, was there anything you could do so obviously, Adam, remember do the lad was feet away. And because I had never met him, but upon me, you know, this character, you'd never forget him once you let him in. So Adam, Adam just rallied the troops, you know, decided to make it big M banner, basically spoke to the math and I want to win the match and to for the charity. And, you know, you act together on getting it, you know, Adam started like, wanting to get involved in the child to get and set up because I think one the culture was every week, Mark obviously used to go to the maximum is lower than we give them an outlet to conduct a match. You know, with those, we welcome anyone at the max Marcus Sutherland to your windows and stuff like that. So I've been on the coach's tours, and I met him as a friend first. And then obviously, when the charity launch the launch night, he knew that I'd done the songs and he asked me to play the knights and I obviously played and I always felt that we're in a code, you know, doing open days and stuff like that, for the charity. I was just out there when I called him. And he asked me to be an ambassador. And probably just over a year ago, now, maybe even a year 18 months ago, and it was an honor for me to you know, for the charity that children and families support children and families, you know, kids with cancer and stuff like that. It's you know, it's heartbreaking and the support that they give to both the children and the families is second to none, you know, in a way to do with the local hospital today is absolutely unbelievable. And then you know, they they got to do 14 with like with Liverpool Football Club. Funny enough. It was always going to be when he asked me to do it was really proud moments don't mean so of course I was going to accept them. You know, I'll always be an ambassador for the charity for as long as they want me to do and it was only funny enough. I've moved in over that over Mark now is in a very loose flightless face and me bedrijven myconian have dropped off and a lot in full of presents for children just two days ago into the streets and literally allotted seven pallets full of persons with two kids from the ages of three to 18. And, and, you know, me and Mark are on the pallets and put them in the ocean, a lot of other volunteers with agility and Max long Mia. He's not only a pianist, you know, lots of, you know, colleagues from the charity, he also have a friend and he's not a neighbor as well. And, you know, him and his wife, Joanne, what they've been through and what they do on a day to day basis is just inspiring to everyone. And, you know, they've been as neighbors, they've been unbelievably welcoming to me, and me and my girlfriend, you know, always knocking over the road asking us if we wanted any, and, you know, given us cups of tea, you know, go and get through while we weren't doing the work. And on it, it's just, it's just unbelievable people. You know, the city of Liverpool is looking to like people like dark, like, you know, the big run by doing what he's doing. And, you know, Forbes from the LFC foundation get involved in, you know, Forbes does a lot of warehouse in America, when when we go out there, you know, he posts a lot of work in the community, when we're on tour, he's an unbelievable face, and all these people coming together to, to, you know, to give this reality that the platform allows to do the unbelievable work that it does. It's, it's phenomenal. And I'm just, it's not about me, it's about mark and john, you want me I'm just so proud that I can help and, and be a part of it. They're doing I mean, it's it. Yeah, you know, sort of like that. I've never approached younger kids or anything like that. But if something like that happens to me, so I don't think I'd be able to get up in the morning, you know what I mean? And to get up and do what they do on a day to day basis for the and it's not always a nice outcome. You know, I mean, like, you know, we mean, a lot of a lot of the time the children do get better, but it's not always the case. And they have to relive basically, what they went through every day with what they what they doing with and it's almost evil, it's just, you know, you talk about many people in the world, but these the people who got under the radar, and, you know, it's, it's just, I'm just so privileged to be part of what to do and be a part of their lives. And, you know, we all should we all should take note and follow that example, that picture. Because it's, you know, it's unbelievable. Show show, again, so proud and so lucky to be part of it. Yeah, it was an honor to have him on because, you know, Mark told me, he never comes on podcasts, you know, especially to talk talk about Owen. And then I actually told him, my nephew passed away when he was 15, on the yts scheme, and a really bad accident. So, you know, it resonated with me his story, and I think that's why he came on, you know, because kind of the same thing, but yeah, for body m, and Joanna doing just amazes me that, you know, I got told him that they could have just gone off by themselves, you know, and just let let their life out. That they said, No, Owen, Owen deserves a legacy. And let's set up this foundation for all these other families that have, you know, the same kind of issues. Yeah, and it's amazing. I mean, I've had the privilege of going meeting the kids as well, you know, with Mark, you know, the kids are a Liverpool fan and stuff like that, like, obviously, the daily it just to see me and for me to turn up and stuff like that. But, you know, like, I almost can't deal with it. You know what I mean? Like, you're going into the kitchen, towel, abdominal chimey I don't know. I mean, it's just like, it's, so I don't know how he does it, they also have to take your days off from within, like, you sit there and think about who you are. don't mean to live the life that you have, and, you know, have the opportunities that you're still going to be here. You know what I mean? It's because you don't know what's around the corner. And, you know, like I say, it's, the children are just totally unbelievable, unbelievably believe children means that they still have smiles on the faces. Yeah, if you take it and you take it under your arm as a little boy, you immediately and this is such an a, like a confident that a lot. And he's you know, he didn't seem to care that many things and you know, and I believe No, just things are things are getting better with me. I'm so happy to be here. And the families of course, Scott's got a long road ahead. And it's a different matter, the support that you get from from charities is much needed, and the needs to be more of it, you know, not nothing, just this, you know, just all over the world. I mean, this is cancer is the biggest killer in the world. You know what I mean? It's it people need to thought through all stages of it. And after, you know, it's it's a, it's massive and especially with children's stuff like that. It's all a lot more than Yeah, and just like I say, it's an unbelievable charity, and anyone who's listening to the podcast, you know, as an editor, the work that they do, you know, given a little, you know, we mean, and I'm sure you'll give me some supports and stuff like that. To me. Yeah, I gave me bursty money that I collected to the foundation as well, you know, and any, any little thing that I could do, you know, again, they just do amazing things. And before before we wrap up, I know, Steve, if you want to want to jump in there. Yeah. Jamie, I have a quick question. You know, you obviously La la la really put put you on the map internationally with a lot of Liverpool supporters. Right. And you kind of mentioned, you know, the Jordan Henderson song and or scouser, Tommy, which is your favorite to chant Liverpool chat. have, you know, we've had a lot we've had the Torres saw we had SUAREZ And you know, and so which one do you enjoy singing? You know, at the at Anfield but also, which is the one that you like playing a lot, too. Yeah. I think. I think I like the feel the thinking whenever walk alone is the song that like, you know, like, that I'll always like want to hear it's personally it is it's the ultimate football song. But like, besides that, I think playing my favorite Liverpool song has always been horoscopes and something has been just a story. It's a story. You know what I mean? It's almost like, Bob Dylan is a football song to remain people's go to Tommy. It's got it's got everything in it. Like a man's on his last day and bless you automate, he declares his love for Liverpool Football Club. I'm sure we can always donate to that, you know what I mean, in some way that like, we'd like to think that if you were on your deathbed, he'd like to have a talk of the town that you shared with LFC you know what I mean, like Chalmette along the line, and a, like, you know, I love that as a kid as well. That song It was like, amazing. To me as a kid, you know what I mean? And a, yeah, forever. I like to slow it down at the start at the boss nights and then speed it up towards the end, and it's got the big finale. And you know, it's got a big 11 in there. It's got you know, songs about it and mostly old Sam Peters goalscorer that will probably ever have, when they smoke, Salah stays for another 10 seasons. You know, like, it's just the ultimate song. So yeah, I'd probably say that one that goes off, that gets the crowd bouncing is the one bake song. Every time you'll meet Anna label, the vandyke song like, people just go and look for that, you know what I mean? It's an edu. And likewise, sort of, like a call to your mean, it's amazing to see that but a Yeah. I'd say boys girls, and so if you wanted to quote me on the favorite song of all time, it's Paul scarf. It's going? Well, it's I always like to say, I always like the question, because I like the answer will remain of the mind stuff like that. Well, yeah. No, but thanks very much. So what am a quick talk about this football team? And because I know, we really haven't even talked about the 40 team. And with all the entities still top of the league still, you know, got through with the group stages, you know, top, I mean, where where does this team go from here? Looks like the sky's the limit. You know what I mean? I mean, this particularly town to be a little bit of fun, isn't it? You know what I mean? It's a space or less injuries to the UK and Liverpool. But everyone keeps talking about top of the pile top of the prop store to me in a church or good thing. I think the only thing we can do next, to succeed, what we've already gone is do the double of the European Cup and the league. So I mean, that that is that's a big you know, that's a big feat to accomplish. Join me and that's like, that's Paisley status you want to mean like that is that that's your table there. You know, we've been looking for that you need one like you need to go in needs. You know what I mean? You need to squat you need you need to utilize your squat to the maximum and which is it's tough to do at the moment, obviously, but the engineers that we've got what you know, I think you never never seen ever with the club and his Liverpool team. But I think gets Iago in the shards, getting fit getting playing. See what happens with one bank. I think we might be lucky we might see him before the end of the season. So if we do, there's every chance to go into those latter stages that you all have been. You know, we could we could do it. You know what I mean? Who knows, but I think I think success is what comes next in Liverpool Football Club. I just think more success. You know, it's, it's, we've got the best manager in the world got the best frontline in the world, you know, best goalkeeper in the world but the best full backs in the world when he's fit the best center offer in the world. You know, Chicago, probably one of the best central midfield plays in the world. It's known as the time era. And then all these plays all these world class players around them as well, like, you know, talking, john Anderson, unbelievable footballer, you know, even like jossa, you know, chuffed with a bit of injury at the minute or played, he's been in job matter. When he's played, he sends it out to people for the meal, it sends it out for midfield. He's an all the way across footballs, and even the players like Nabil Keating, come on, make a difference. Casey Jones has developed into a world class footballer. And this goes on Chamberlain on his day is on playable and cikini on his day is all playable. Do you want to meet the evocati? No, don't just got a big goal in a big moment. Jeannie. Well, now them it's probably one of those, like, reassure midfielders in the game today, you know what I mean? The energy for me, I don't think anyone who can run as much as him. You know, he could play it any team in the world genuine Alden comfortably, and do the dirty, where that's where he goes, it's we've got an unbelievable, unbelievable roster of players. And you say we're talking about the young ones coming through. It's a, it's frightening, really, I don't think scenes are uniting teams with local knowledge. And there's moments where we are beaten up. And they were looking to get a leg up on us and get close to us. But you know, we still between points, top of the league taught me we've got a tough to test this weekend. We are going to obsess this weekend ourselves. But you know, look at Chelsea with that they've come from second to sixth, you know, in a matter of two games. So a, you know, we could we pick up the points now, I think everyone else has got a few tough games. You know, in next week, I think if we make that step, the weekend, you go to six points clear, you know, with a bit of luck, you could go the other way, obviously, but a six points clear. You know, you start looking at things that and you think to yourself, you know, they said, we've got longer plays, but I'm gonna get better because only players are gonna come back to me and don't look like we're gonna get beat by any of the scenes you can play. You know, and I think we look like better than I shouldn't think we look like the best team in the league, even without injuries. So just, it's an exciting time. You know, it could go either way, because of the injuries and because of the amount of games that we play, but someone tells you, there's netta that it's not going to go the other way. And we're just gonna, we're just gonna go from center to center, you know, fingers crossed in touch with the darpan. Yeah, let's hope for the best. I think there's a lot of that motivation to from not having the the true title experience after last season, that I think that this team really wants to get back to that and hopefully have actual fans in the stands when that when we win the title again, this season's to have her we're all looking forward to that for sure. Yeah, yeah, no, definitely. I think that's not that's not what we want is fun. And that's ultimately because the play is one thing on me, you don't want to be suffering the league title in an empty Stadium, the one we want that expensive on the parade. So let's see, let's just say you know what I mean, it's, it's, you know, at the minute we look like we're favourites to do it. So we know if I think Chapa still subconsciousness i a few points still, every reason to suggest that we're going to go on and do it again. And maybe it might be a bit more Seville initiated or the mean it might go down to the way and we might have more of a city or grand or moment that they are you know, in 20 1213 you know, that'd be we've won it like, by a landslide though. Let's try and win it. Like maybe like, it'd be nice to win it with esport you know, a, you know, a bit of a bit of denial. It always makes for a good celebrations. Make your own mean, so we can handle that. On the heart to be honest. But we'll see anyway, felon spotlight, I just want to say thanks very much for having me on. It's a it's been in beta, you know, clickable tears now. I feel like I made a couple of beats. So it goes by quick. Yeah. But next time he's in a Liverpool, you know, and fans are back, you know, I'll be in wholesale tea and all that. So make sure you get yourself there and come and say hello. Get in touch with me, you know when we'll sort that out. And likewise, if I'm back in the States, make yourselves known may come and see me We'll say along with other beer. Yeah, you need to get yourself out to Austin. And I would love to go God I mean, they say Tommy Dance Dance. Dance. One of us business is in Austin. So where he said he was here last July. Yeah, it was. So you should maybe, you know get with em and both lm over. I love to meet up on computer code man degrees in business in sales. So it's a hopefully, hopefully it's with the music and not with it. What not with Dan's computer business like but uh, yeah, let's let's meet it. There's a plane ticket to Austin, Texas, then I'm jumping on it. So yeah, honestly, you stay on hopefully see issues DC for the meantime and, you know, open it and see what happens. Thanks very much. See you later. Thank you very much.