Special Guest: IAN BYRNE MP - Member of Parliament for Liverpool West Derby

Daz and Steve chat with Mr. Ian Byrne MP about Liverpool FC and the charitable organization,  Fans Supporting Foodbanks. 

Fans Supporting Foodbanks is a "unique partnership between Spirit Of Shankly & The Blue Union coming together to tackle food insecurity, challenge austerity & defend our communities/class."

For more information about how you can get involved visit their Facebook page:
@FansSupportingFooddbanks and follow them on Twitter @SFoodbanks

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Sort of my way that you got the day heavier Yeah, exactly. And be in bed by eight not not at 8pm after the after we win today. So after the match, yeah. So I know. Steve's gonna kick this off today. Good morning in the morning. Yeah, thank you for coming on. As you know, it's an honor to to speak to somebody that's in you know, providing service for the for the government for the city Liverpool. So we're very interested about the show today so as we normally do on our shows, we we'd like to find out you know how our guests first came to Liverpool how they fell in love with the team. And then also if they can reminisce about their first time they ever went to Anfield and tell us about those experiences. So can you let us know how you Yes. Yeah, I was born in the city a me me das and Melton the whole family with a vets a sibling in the family if that's also good thing. Yeah, so so so so you know going off on a on a on a on a council house in the states and Liverpool West Darby place for council farm it was just football moms. And the dads obviously if asked on the pool they're supposed to so we'd go every every game on the way so it's just it's just it's just policy lace and as you go and open you know why don't we abide man these babies still live on their in Council farm and you some council a house and the vote was opposite if there was like available flats and David Faircloth a new survey you selected kale flooding in and the bad name is Dave affect local open affair colds getting out of play and then all the kids running around and it was like it was it was never forget it just the amazing memories see like fake looks so small we feel stuck but also obviously loved loved the football team so we sell the first game is it actually in the unfilled Oh then when it was minister then it's like the cop or what the cop used to be status and I think was all four or five when we that shocked me about five years of age and and that was the first game and things against Leicester City every call and family call obviously not about the game but just to know us and them to get to know us and that's get the atmosphere and it's something which obviously you've just grown into and you just becomes a lovin and the football clubs just become an entrepreneur a huge part of my life and you know I'll pass that on to my my boys my daughter it will fanatical Liverpool funds and it just it does help unfortunately to be from the football ground as well. So it's a Yeah, it's a cyclical part of my life and you know for all the ups and downs it's give you and some of the great moms some sort of the best moments of your life and some of the worst moments in my life so it's a Yeah, it's certainly no being a football fan. connected to the poor football clubs and he certainly gives you there gives gives you some experiences, that's for sure to say he has an in my life. So where can that also be fast game is 548 now so 42 years yeah, 48 for NASCAR, cool, fun. You know, it doesn't surprise me your story about David Faircloth. I've had the luxury of meeting him a couple of times, and he's always impeccably dressed. But next time I see him I'm gonna ask him about that first coat. I spoke to a lot of money. No. pull that off. He pulled it off. Yeah, he could. I couldn't see Stevie Nicole wearing it, but I can see the heart as well. No, no, no, no. So yeah. Things stick in your mind kind of the master thing. You know, the kids who don't bounce in the door. You know, cuz he's a head. Oh, you know, it's 75. So, oh, seven 778 So obviously, you know the saints that's the end game and you know, he was a shooter supposedly, so yeah, yeah, he was a good man. He was his nickname super so but that timer and that came after later. Right. I think it was a little bit later. Maybe big a piece of non piece of it was unbelievable facts and figures. Yeah, it must be that I'm not kidding. Cuz he just really was lovely. Like, so skabe. And, you know, he was just a fantastic substitute. Yeah, we had Peter Hooton on but that wasn't one of them. We had, you know, Peter. Yeah, Peter could talk. And so that wasn't one of the questions we ever got to. And yeah, and from West Darby. And so, yeah, some little little known facts if the listeners don't know, it is statically part of Lancashire, right? Which is a weird one as well. And, and also I locked I locked it up as well because I'm from for me, and but I locked it off arms at the Norse word for westerby is let me let me see place in the wild beasts. That's got to be something there you go. I couldn't I couldn't possibly come up. But I say for you the American listeners. It's the Caspar so it's one of the first places the Beatles played and it's still in existence and you can go in and you know you can get taken around there there by the owners a number of pests that played there so it's a fascinating place you know when to see where the Beatles actually started tiny tiny and I mean it's just like a like I said homemade stage but a fascinating piece of history and from there the volunteer greatness they were the house band butter night karate band Yeah, yeah, but it's a fascinating sound when he tells about it the mother bringing them in and then half of them appeal queue around the block to get in to see them and then it was common to James's kids not many people and obviously to answer their to make as much money as the golden No, but it was a fascinating fascinating place to see it because it's a it's a living piece of SDN obviously, you know, we're all guilty of modern history down at times obviously belongs to Calvin and Calvin so this is Emil real pcsd with Sam extremely proud to have been in West Albion moving forward I hope we can do much more with that as well to publicize it and and put it on the map. And isn't that a stockade still there? Yeah, as long as he wants you about that individual that helped me No, I'm kidding. got quiet. Yeah, we were dealing with there you see with the food bank, just where that was? Yes. So yeah, yeah. Lots and lots of fruits, fruit and veg next to it. And West Arby's, also for the listeners house alder Hey, Children's Hospital, as well as male world as well. And a certain young football player comes from there. Trent, Alexander Arnold. And so now I want to talk in about like, How in the hell did you become like get into politics? It's called question really, and it said, I was never not it was never not another one. Nothing to add any incentive to gyms to be honest and about four or five, four years ago was I was waiting for there a trade union. I was the trade union organizer, going into factories building union, density, open collision union people to join a trade union, which all your listeners should do. Always be a member of a trade union get involved in trade unionism, and then exam carbon enablon MP for Liverpool Walton just got in touch and asked him to do some volunteer for them on stuff on the job and which he did do because Dan was getting elected in 2017. And the principles were, say believed. And so I worked alongside Dan and, and then he asked me to stay on. So I stayed on. And then in 2019, the previous mph, Stevens fig decided to be stepping down and go on to do other things. So I was performed with an Aston, but I had to be locked in. Because it didn't, I wasn't sure that was what I wanted to do what I wanted to do, and I always go on a plan, assume you know what it is for you to, you know, yesterday and look after your community and look after the people in your community and what gives you the best opportunity to do that. And I sort of sold myself on it that way. And obviously, it was a massive believer in the 2017 2019 Labour Party manifestos and Jeremy Corbyn. So So yeah, it was a it was it was sold in 2019, a general election. And from that we won the numbers elected to Parliament. So it's been a it's been quite a roller coaster, to be honest, obviously, from from an English perspective, but it's just perspective, obviously, but because of Brexit, and because of COVID. So it's, it hasn't been it hasn't been a normal 11 months for the for the member of Parliament's but sad to do as much as we can swell people out because much recall where you're sad of the Atlantic, it's, it's good. It's grim. sanch for the for many, many people in our community. So yeah, it's been a baptism of fire. But I've got to say, you know, I do a lot of enjoying a lot of representing the people of West are being a little representing the people of Liverpool as well. And so we don't want to get like, you know, too political. But, um, you know, what's your take on on the government? And what, what they've done to sort of Northwest? a? Yes. Yeah, I know, I'm gonna get a bit political, I think it's been shambolic, to be honest, the thing to governments and love has been disastrous, I think the made so many wrong strategic decisions, which have cost, the events, the cost labs, and you know, when and of you know, of that have made the situation where so many, many peoples were bought, you know, took knowledge on some good things to fail all scheme was it was a good thing. But actually, the outsource the major services, like the second space system, has been utterly disastrous, and, and the other lessons from people on the ground, it's very much central as coming from Westminister into communities. And, you know, if she machine obviously, with different regions getting seated differently, and it just hasn't been a joint cohesive approach of what you need to do solidarity, because we had solid data, see, the first couple of months where people were working together, fantastic schemes, everyone was pulling in the same type of accident, and the de la star. And you know, it's not, it's not an easy task. All governments across the world are facing difficulties we can see, but some are handling much, much better than others. And, you know, from our perspective, we just think we know what Trump's doing in no matter what I'm what he's doing in medicine, and I'm looking at what Johnson's done in the UK. And it's been it's pretty, it's been pretty disastrous admonished. And it would have been, so Jeff and Mike Campbell opinion of people that have someone like Jeremy Corbyn leading the government's it wouldn't, it wouldn't have made the decisions he's making now. And even, even this morning, we wake up to, potentially, and that's in a lockdown, which is leaked to the papers, shoulders been no decision, but businesses are found, and I was there as the wake up this morning, you know, employers, you know, everyone's just waking up to the news, potentially within another lockdown. And, you know, you should not learn from the papers, you know, we should be briefed, everyone should have a say, and we should be able to bring people along with us. But at the moments a start up. Hey, you know, I have a question for you. Because, you know, a lot of times through these type of situations, you know, who come out of it. And one of the things that I've seen here in the United States, especially in Texas, is that the activism at the youth level, or the younger voters has exponentially exponentially grown in here in last few months. I mean, our rate of young voters is up 600% than it was at this time last time at the election. So you see, can you kind of get any indication that that may be happening there and Liverpool that you're gonna get some of the younger demographics to get involved in the politics? Well, yeah, I think that was one of the successes of a number of Corbin and also, Bernie Sanders as well. You know, the, the youth vote Didn't, you know, the younger volte scene? discussions on matters that worked out, you know, that they fade and believed and, you know, you look at, you know, extinction rebellion over the, you know, for the climate issues, massive across the world, isn't it? You know, and I think that sort of engagements in energy, it was actually just be brilliant over here. And I've been watching America with interest, to be honest, I spoke about saltwater last week on a podcast about sea bass across the states to utforska massively offers now with which hopefully, will lead to the, to a decision as to an election result which we all desperately needs. Both Well, what I will say is, you know, if people do youngsters want a vision, you know, obviously, it's their future. And what we're seeing now and saying, and, and this side of the pond, you know, over the last 40 years, we see no changing conditions in order to be seen of as as $1 construct machine. Now, the gig economy, and what COVID shown is that no damn type of jobs, solid secure, and they leave people completely adrift. And then obviously, the welfare system and this country's got to sign you know, help them up no one know the American situation pretty similar. And, you know, we can, we can go back to that, you know, we've got it, we've got it, we got to learn lessons about what this pandemic Sean farmers, you know, more than people have died, and then there's been massive struggle, and there's been so much hardship, will surely the lessons have got to be learned from and we've got to build a society which we export as all it not just a 1%. And people have got another No. And the youngsters again, I've got it up this vision, so no bad and those come along on the back of the youth falls, but then he's gotta, you've got to look forward and make sure that then people have got to visit and it's exactly the same in this country. Politicians today, I've got to paint a vision for the future as well. Yeah, it just just seems like especially well, head as well, on that it's just them them. And I know, there's a massive divide between, you know, the rich, and then the middle class, the middle class seems to get in Porter, you know. But yeah, I mean, that the big, the big ones. And a couple of days, so, we probably won't know the results, you know, for at least another week after that. But, you know, I know me and Steve are hoping, you know, for the best and same back home, you know, me sister who's a nurse, I just tell me about all the hardships and stuff. And, and a lot of the young kids, though, don't seem to be taking this pandemic. Seriously. And I think that's an issue as well, you know? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think that that, is it. No, that that is an issue, obviously. It's just a sort of messaging, isn't it and salts educated? You know, when to say that, you know, you, you might end up to symptoms, or just pass it on. And, you know, because it is proof because, you know, once you get your say, and he it's totally useless. Like, no, I'm agile, and this is closer, I got it. But then as I was he was that he said, you know, Joel never had the opportunity to speak to him. And that's, that's right across the board across the country, so many people wants to go into it. You can you can obviously see them. And, you know, we it's been athletes and attended some funerals and you know, it can be no physical contact, you can, you know, obviously, I'm sure that was like that over the years over there. But over the funeral was a time where you come you come back, you'd have a laugh, what needed healed in the stair starts in the healing process. And, you know, I've had some great good friends. We've lost lives and we couldn't go back and did you get in the car and drive nobody in isolation, and, and it's been a while for many, many people across the country that have gone down. And last one has been extremely difficult. So, you know, that's, that's, that's what the pandemic storm offers political angle, and it's just been a, it's been, it's been shocking what you just said, spot on, we need, we need a society which we got an end to divisiveness. You know, you've got to bring people together, you know, and realize that, you know, no difference, except sometimes, like you can see with your eyes and you know, and that and this is this is the message will be will be started today from ops in Liverpool fans for food banks, and that's something I'm extremely keen to do. But obviously Johnson and Trump, I've got a different agenda. And and it is very, very, very divisive. And, and it's shown that, you know, moving forward, as I said before, the move to political settlement from COVID and economic settlements with that to political settlements and how we, how we move together as communities you've got to change and not a system, you've got to, you've got to realize that, you know, we're all equally susceptible to a virus that we can't see. You know, it doesn't matter what religion did I you know, what a backlash What culture flump. You know, this fire. This is a it's been a real leveler, and hopefully it makes people there by xoxoday know what, what they actually are facing in this in the construct. Ian, you mentioned about the community coming together, and then you've referenced the food banks. That's one of the things that we'd like to learn more about the fencer food, food banks, and I believe it started in 2015. And you're, you know, you help start that initiative. Can you kind of go back and tell us some of the history and why that came about and just share some of the successes that it has right now. Yeah, yeah. So I mean, so first of all food banks come about because know, what we've done in the country of bankruptcy, were quite closely on on a thing called 2020, which was basically a waste tickets were just going out of the place names of the, of the ordinary working class, fam. So we said, you know, without the weight fans, the atmosphere is less than so we want to campaign with clubs, close rates across the country. And we ended up with quite a substantial victory again, with the Premier League by getting set its cap to 30 pounds. And we obviously no, as I say, genius and all the power that the collective, you know, and I'll just leave an impression on football supporters. So we come off the back of that working quite closely with Everton and Liverpool with the with the strategy, Shanklin de Kelly was really there to blue union. And then we've accidentally got worse and together to unite the CS union in in the UK. And what happened was, basically we've gone through a community center, which is a stone's throw from my house, and I'm feels and there's a queue of people outside. So this was in 2015. So there's a queue of people outside and me We will meet a community leader there and eyesores execute for the bingo it's like an afternoon session of Bingo. And then the community leader said to me she said no, she said the cumin for the food bank so we knew about the food banks and you'd seen and you know what what like everything in life your own life sorta like takes over and yeah, and you're complicated you're doing everything that you need to do you can see the poverty but when it issue like that, I think when it when he said then see people, you know, of all denominations, or sexes and all that, like the culture of our field, just like walking in frontier, and shuffling in together to get a bag of food. And then she said, Would you like to come into the basket and see, prepare the food. So we went into the back, me and Dave and so like where the deer was stored and the food and culture Community Food Bank, it was given it was run on donations from the community and the community was under attack. That's why people were using food banks. So there wasn't much there. And you know, when a bad meme you know, I often speak about it was that you'll see a big bag of pasta, and you're putting it into little sweet bugs and then put them into a bag and people would just get like getting given what they were given. And it just found it happy you know people though know a lot of nodes worked all the lives you know and ended up in this position and but rarely glasses so we went home that night and I couldn't sleep and wave soft about the sake of the campaign before was well the thought will know me means Eva the conversation we said well, we were collaboratively on this, let's do it on on this this idea. And the idea was simple. Basically move on a political side goldition and on fields with a wheelie bin, which is like a bin on wheels. And we'd start food donations. And the idea was obviously we've got 60,000 they're unfilled they've got yeah falls your 1000 Goodison every week because because obviously the grounds are so tight together that only only a mile a pass we could have it every week a collection and the ad will be that you know the football fans and zone aces will fill the shelves and the communities across the mall to Liverpool. And you know in thinking from then I think we always say a food bank should not be in existence right now the sixth richest country in the world to look after those people. But the government today is not and has not been easy to see over here and you know when it is less people their pains life. So that's how it started. And the first game I think we say nice, it's tragic, but we had to go to shin and and be honest, we got more chip, battlers and their pies flew into the bed more than food, but once we tell passed all the ship wrappers and pies, we are zonation choices. Okay. Now that way. So let's just go through and then I was on the Liverpool supporters committee shortly I then ended Liverpool to speak to like a fantastic Susan black is communications director and she's been brilliant and Liverpool Football Club and then Ms. An amazing man called for two weeks with bad neighbors and his team so they they start away from windows we work with ever and never clear blue with them community so we've entered the club from you know previously the club's my Mesa seen as a antagonists someone who wasn't it was a pain in the backside for them but honestly because we were because we know we've always fought against their ticker places because Bobby said to the missus, now this is this is happening in our communities, your football grounds and our communities you're part of our community come along so so we've just built we built built the relationships with the community build relationships with the football clubs, and you know, some of our plants achievements of what we've done with other support groups as well across the country so you know, we were the first Liverpool Football Club is finished Shankly with a fierce fan group to go for Manchester United is Food Bank because they started the food bank so it spread the food bank ideas across the country. We've got Newcastle Man United Man City Villa, Leeds Westham to name a few just hundreds doing what what Liverpool fans have done and whatever fans have done what we've all started doing was if it's a food bank to the match, we say for donation of food so no changing the perception of football fans of this no this this junk mob which come into your town and and their you know their destruction will be sent out on the other if I'm honest. And I'm very sad to anybody's certainly the ugly of people now look at football fans are so manase to go the community so that you know that's one of our proudest achievements, but I think no just before lockdown me but probably contributed 35% 40% of all foods going into Liverpool to bunch of that comes from the football fans. So the football fans and I must say we're contributing to the food bank, but also we educate people on why we don't need to punch by the buttons and what are the reasons for food banks. So it's you know, you know yourselves football is such a gives you such an opportunity, you know, to get into communities to get into different religious groups to get you know, and to add to use the power of the collective and collaboration and solidarity and I'm extremely proud of some of the work we've done. And I'll just start someone off I'll just say you know one of our proudest moments was obviously we've been working with the Muslim community is fairly I said after the fish in and they were doing collection dimou just santiment cottage the Muslim community to their to get involved in the football the many many brilliant supporters but then the most fellas Lance you know and and and it changes so what we did was easier to play in the bell curve and we put a show on on in the mosque. So we for the last screen on the mosque, we got all the communities together so many people who who hadn't probably stepped foot in a mosque and maybe some of the preconceptions around the Muslim religion and the mosques are broken down at night could be saved food we watch football together we some more shower together and it's just it's just a wonderful wonderful their events and you know that's what we actually do use and football is a usually a positive tool and and you know in closing goals and yesterday it was a really proud moment cuz you know, people are watching this fellow fans walk through banks on social media and encourage you to do so. And on Twitter. We we have we have our first mobile food pantry yesterday which was which is a fantastic evolvement from a wheelie bin five years ago to a mobile food. Yeah, we saw the picture that Peter Moore posted on Twitter on his social media. So I was I was very happy that you know, he's such an activist to and supporter of the food bank. So it was nice to see him posting pictures and seeing the the mobile I wanted the mobile, you know, version of your initiative. So I'll just kind of add that, you know, we had Joe blood on from spirit Shanklin. I know that that's one of his proudest things is that how active they are in the food banks and and you know, providing that kind of service to the community. But also, as you mentioned, it's grown into other other clubs. But it's also grown to the supporters club because, you know, being president, the supporters clubs here, the food bank is our main charity here in Austin so you can kind of see how that initiative that started there has grown to this, you know, to different clubs in England but also to the supporters clubs all around the world. It's just not ours. A lot of them use the food bank as their main charity. No, no, you wouldn't they're probably confidence away is our cloud that that makes me that makes me feel and I'm sure Dave and Bobby and the whole team feel exactly the same because we alekseevna Cloud when we see what happens in a matter so that, you know PMOS and and Debbie have been phenomenal supporters of what we've done, you know, these deposits into a dp dp just fantastic. So they like they like President spoke to them now bought the MTC and you know, once defeated or CCM butthole over to the USA, I'm sure he's gonna be doing way over there. But I think about, we watch we watch what happens in Texas, and also in New York seems to be crazy, talk popular, but I think it's RB I don't know, we don't want to talk with the derby. But we are there. We have new york Everton fans in New York. And then Everton and Liverpool come together, but a big collection and zonation. So knowing the international support is just phenomenal. You know, we've got no yesterday we got a donation from Japan. A bit came in yesterday, the Norwegian football supporters, the reds, they're just phenomenal. I mean, to just say treads 1000 pounds, we get the gym embeds, you know, we've either allowed some Gemma who organized collection in this community that was over two 2000 pounds. So but I mean, that comes towards but what we want to do, and what we want to encourage football fans to do is collect and put into your own communities. For to me, many, many communities need this sort of thing. And, as I said, before, it just gives such a positive demonstration of what a football fan is, you know, who cares deeply about the home community as well as the football club. So you know, it's, it's, it's been a, it's been one of the veil, barely, barely a massive plus point. And obviously, you may talk about the pee pee pee review in the in the show. And, and that's this has been a huge part of building up that movements as well. You know, when the saw just, just just before, if you want us to speak to where the food banks in Austin, buy a zoom, you know, it's anything that you wanted to do like that, or anyone wants to wants to engage with them and talk about what we've done. And you know, and we can get cross subsidize ideas, I'm sure you've got some great ideas, which we haven't taught. So I think that's what we need to be doing, we need to be speaking and me and another ideas for forming. So I think that sorts of collaboration between football fans across the board would just be a great thing. Now, there's, uh, that'd be something that we can definitely set up here in the future. And I know that through the supporters club, you know, Jane, and Sophie there, they tried to, you know, integrate as many of the sports clubs into doing these initiatives and supporting, you know, the Liverpool foundation and food banks as well. So, I recently saw a tweet that you put out about, obviously, Marcus rashford has been in the news quite a bit, you know, for his efforts. And we go back to talk about how young people could be active, you know, and here's this young lad that, you know, crossing, you know, the, the lines of supporters, you know, to, to really bring this initiative to to everyone, you know, no matter what club you're supporting, or what city you're from, and he seems to have really brought a lot of the people together, you know, for this and, and like I said, I saw that you tweeted, you're supportive him and what his endeavors have been. Oh, he's been, he's been he's been magnificent. You know, because there's a lot that comes from a community, a community working class community, you know, he's, he's lived through food poverty, you know, with the free school meals, and he speaks with such elegance, but also, he resonates because he's honest. And, you know, with the campaign, what his runs been, has been, has been magnificent. So be honest on it, you know, it's, it's really a pleasure to watch him know, stood up in Parliament to the reconnaissance, potentially, you've now got a Manchester United State, whose name could easily be Shawn gone to court and the gladius police and they will not mess up, you know, that's the impact. These are then, you know, builds on what have been stolen, but with those with the football, bringing the fans together, you know, we've got Manchester United Manchester City fans welcome together with Liverpool. You know, Manchester United Food Bank. Our Place was at Liverpool yesterday, was at the food pantry launch and, and it's making people realize, you know, we're so sold, you know, we're so similar that, you know, we're from the same background just because we follow a different support. It seems just a different thing. You know, you know, there's far more that yeah, that unites us than divides us. So I think this is analysis ambassador. It's been instrumental and he's caught right today. Obviously caused political storms and not fair play to him and what he's doing there is something that we're doing with obviously with looking at the right to food and pushing down and Parliament's and markers as well put that on the agenda. We may get there someday. Yeah, I just it just blows blows my mind. And, you know, again, the government not not not helping these kids because no, no kid should go hungry at all, and no family should go hungry. You know, I mean, this is even before the pandemic, you know, a lot of people I need help, you know, with with food banks. Same same over there. It's a sad situation, you know, and I wish the government would do to a lot more for that. People, like, you know, Marcus Rushford, kind of kind of helps the movements along, you know, being famous and just going look this needs. Yeah. And, and, you know, go going on to pay per view crap as well. And funds just saying, No, like, you're already greedy enough, that then taking their hard earned money and put it into the food banks. Like, that's got to make you proud as well. Yeah, no, is it really as and you like, what you say, you know, it's, it's symptomatic of how societies gone a way we've got the we've got food banks, which as the Savior to the stain on society, if I'm honest, that you shouldn't be in existence, I shouldn't be on GMO food banks. But we do and you know, and what we're trying to do is, you know, incorporate the rights of food into law. So punish policies, which would cause the huge rise in food, bank usage and their poverty and saying the already we've got something called Universal credits. And you've got to be, you've got to if you go on to that if you lose your job, and you go watch the universe, etc, it's a five week wait before you get any, any funds. So you can only imagine, there, you've lost your job, you mainly got a pittance of settlements, then you've got to be five weeks, you know, for that for any any source of income. So what are you supposed to do as a family? Now, this, this, our hope is that once we get it once we push to the right to food into legislation, more than anything which impinges on the Pearson's vice to say, how food and dignity, then will be outlawed. So that's what we're hoping we're gonna be pushing for it, to be honest. So that's a huge part of what I'm going to be doing and Parliament's moving forward. And now it's gotten to the day, I've got a model duty to look after the kids like the same. But unfortunately, as we've seen last weekend, the Bolton Parliament's D fail at that model juicy. So it's got to be in law, we can't rely on people or governments, we can't rely on them today to do the right thing. So unfortunately, that's what we are pushing for. So everything you'll see us put out has got hashtag bite to food on, and we're gonna build momentum now around it. And it's hopefully sh from your beautiful smile The next three to four years. Yeah. You know, in one of our listeners, and you may know him, Frank Carlisle, you know, has a radio show there in Liverpool. He, he, he wanted me to ask you that. And you kind of touched upon it, you know, because of the the world standing of the UK, and he was wondering why why are the kids living below the poverty line? And, you know, who is responsible for for that being the situation? Is it the voters? Is it the the parliament? You know, just just the, the mindset of surrounding governments or? I mean, that's a deep question, isn't it but for me, the now we've got massive structural imbalances, which ultimately divisive foods in a without too, it's fast, but also economically, and as I said, before, about seeing a lot more complex, you know, jobs with no security, you see, you know, it's coming from Medicare, that sort of idea. And I was landed in the UK, and what we're seeing is just massive, you know, blue chip fam Stein's a fire me higher, unless it's him, you know, and it's just, it, you know, the economic models, a model of the world has got to change, and it's got to change. So it's not just focused on the 1%. It's focused on the 99%, that people are actually in the wealth for these people. They're actually treated right now. And we can talk all day about Amazon, some of the absolutely outrageous conditions day where many, many more bad stories about Walmart, and over the air, we've got sports dialects. So the you know, this is a culture that cultures got to change. So that's why you know, it's such a grievious flow that we didn't get a Jeremy Corbyn led labour governments and because he was going to do that he was going to start changing and that's why it was such a to that to certain individuals, and that's what and that's why obviously, what happened happened. So, yeah, we've just got to keep going. And, you know, the post COVID settlements, which has got a it's got to be fit everyone a we've that's what we've got to be aiming for, you know, I'm a massive socialist. Now when I when America seems to scare people, if you see the socialist, both for me there as a as a as a wailed being a far better place than what we just did with experience. And now when I put the, you know, the, but what we're seeing now is capitalism in its worst form. Yeah, I mean, that's having a Russian degree, I tried to have explained to people what socialism is, you know, here, because they really have a negative connotation to it. But, you know, hopefully, by this time, next week, we'll have a more positive outlook in America, and, you know, hopefully it reaches will just pass upon to you guys tip. So, no, let's hope so. Well, you know, we see families playing social systems and people, but you've got your to the food banks as well, I'd say that was an element of socialism, to that, you know, it's this communities coming together and having each other's back and looking after each other, you know, so, you know, people can flame it in different ways to get where they need to go. But for me, on the grounds, examples of true socialism, we love what we're doing and funds water food banks, for me, that's, that's it, that's socialism and action. And, you know, that's what you've got to do, you've got to point people to, to initiatives that are helping the communities that can actually wear and say, well, that's what it is, don't be scared by taking away the way call it what you want. Now call it what you want. But you know, for me, it's about making sure that you look after it, should that effect each other, and build a better world for all of us. And not just as I say, and I can't keep saying the same individuals that do very well to this situation. Yeah, yeah, well, we'll have to continue to educate people one person at a time, that's for sure. So all the all interesting conversations, and one that we can, you know, talk hours upon, because it's so interesting to Daz and I, and having perspectives from here, and also the perspectives over there in the UK. So, let's transition to football for a little bit. And, you know, we're, we're obviously, you know, going through this last, you know, two years have been such a great positive atmosphere for the club in the city, you know, winning trophies. So, kind of share your experiences that you had, you know, finally winning the title winning the Champions League again, after so many years. Yeah, me. Just because of the situation and you know, as I say, out loud before, a long time, and, you know, it's holy grail, you know, they've been in the league again, and, you know, since Diegans come in and what he's done is just be not ensures that phenomenal and to be fair, you know, you can always have I can even through their fair shake, but FSG have run the club, it you know, well, and don't what they've done to get away the ad and obviously, bringing Juergen in was a Master Master stroke and what he's done over the last few years, and he's given us some fantastic fantastic names and you know, and you know, and some of my best nights you know, have had some great nights watching the pool over the years, but you know, watching watching this see evolves, it's a potentially tricky to see him I've ever seen a, and as a Liverpool supporter, has been an absolute joy to be old, and just the image Well, you know, just how he handles himself and how genuine he is, you know, some couple of zoom calls rhythm and he's just such a, such a decent fella that actually wants to know more about what you're doing in the community and cares. So it's just been a it's been a joy and you know, we want to be one of the greatest moments that has gone instrumented and seen and bought say for me two songs at me and we didn't upset it's because I could have got a ticket but couldn't got them safe. It's just impossible to get so we went over submits a bid and we've entered the squid and Jamie Webster and all the all the analysts who watch the game and abide by the banner barwin. And it was just just a brilliant sand for them. Because they Travolta and Liverpool have a game yeah, the pure final. Just know, you'll always pleasure. And I just wanted the Satan to experience it cuz you never know. You never know if you're going to get that again. So it's been a so yeah, just to watch him. But when we you know, I mean, let's you know, we start to season this season and we're just flying out the show to watch and you just think and you think I'm going to be all the way in there. So you're counting down in your calendar in January we're looking thinking oh, you know, Google the winner obviously Fingers crossed by Dan and you know we think about how the city is going there. Just know the views gonna come off the city. And then obviously be a call with and then we go into DNC and Sam's we did and then down nobody starts to touch me stack on Along with me, you know, it's snowing watching the games you know without any fans and you know it's great to watch it and it just it just reveal bittersweet taste so when we wanna you know there was this I only live a couple from Anfield so obviously the ad was was was alive and it's strange because you wanted not more than say to be at the game with all your friends and your family because we all sit together in the carpet and just see all your match friends and just be cut that was what we've waited for a season that was denied those and a customer of mine but in our saying you know once we get back into ground eventually you know once we come out to this period in our history we can all go back and watch football and and watch spectator events and just be to answer some normality I can't really appreciate I think we appreciate football, you know what it means here and what it means to the community because it's been you know, it's been a big loss to Liverpool and down this area as a community you know, displeased comes alive and I'm at stake and we can be a mister today again, I've just stopped a dog for a walk it's all cordoned off I've walked by on field but this is not an operation of excitements you know we'd have the food bank here everything be ready to be doggy adopted as a safe place to be poisoned but we've lost that so yeah, it's it's stains it stains in and I'll share that with the funds and now it's just I know what you think over there but obviously us because user you're watching in America anyway, it's been a knock on the game, as I say, and just seeing the games, to be honest, like I can watch the game I lose interest without the funds, you know, in any and normally I'd watch any football you know, anything gone, but I'm struggling to watch any games other than even in the field games now when that on just you know, difficult way because it just feels like it's a game sometimes. It's bizarre. Yeah. But yeah, it's been bittersweet to say to some of them Well, hopefully you know, when fans do you come back at the clubs will really realize you know, how much the fans, you know, I think that's at least a positive. And but what uh, what are some of your favorite marches? You've been to question after, isn't it? I mean, I mean, the 86 School finally stands up in heaven and we'll be back day as well so I don't want to forget that as a kid and go come on back on the Boston posters flip that in blue and go on down cool bachelor's degree today at six No, AC nine after those four that was the final that was so many more than just the stains game those would be made use of nails for wedding you know does that stand out to me mmm for many different reasons I love dearly a table no events at all and games you know we went to their wedding car that was just a fantastic place to go and look at the final it was just so football support you can have a drink it was like the middle of the city sense and the stadium was just awesome The atmosphere was just generally Minnesota well you know I'll always say no kidding this game have ever been was a stumble there it was just the greatest game you know have ever ever been just to say other than that you know? So we would all in the ground staff Sam and we did a couple of things and we may say Paul can and he has a he does a lot he does a few drugs as LCD on us and he just say announcers and said their support believe and we were just a slight assist you know we've all seen you never walk alone and you just signs that like limited damage Come on We all know there's just no way in the world anyone thought that we were going to come back because our master class affairs staff they were the magnificent football team. Now we aren't up to it you know as much as I love them until such support and positive support belief so you know standing there but he's really safe as far as on saying support and believe and you're just looking out and going yeah no I'm many kinds of they do that. But anyway, they lost the sales support believe so when you see the bandit on the call support believe I'm sure you seen it. That's our banner. And we don't know but Paul, because of because and you know and that sums up what a Liverpool fan is about. You know even in the even Inception it was support and believe and we did and and we did yesterday after this capsule we definitely called yeah and then obviously no jet lag scores and we go on to that so so that was that was that was a magnificent game there she many great games that I'm feel bought I went to Barcelona last season. And obviously Messi gets that was one of the greatest calls ever seen to me like he doesn't clap and sip and Liverpool play cake that makes a bunch of Bayern Munich and that was just magnificence. So we that'd be that'd be another nice journey and you're going with him, he sends in that in a combustion Barcelona game. And I was conscious to the fact that Messi scored that goal. But we've watched you know, we've managed to be the greatest footballer that's ever lived. And I've watched it a couple of times, and we choose shaunda when he was 17, or 14. At AWS, they've got to see this man, cuz it's always thought you can sell your grandkids to see Massey so the semi final even though I had an income, we could do something but obviously does respect against security. And we'd always have a chance to sit tickets to missions and aid on the food bank amantha Pope so watch the game, the chess journey or field goal next to the ground. So we tutions What's the Barcelona game on for them in the problem? I'm sure you have other people on the other day say that's the greatest game they've ever seen. You know, ever and it was the greatest game to watch as well. But you know, me some some say 17 like many 17 he doesn't display any emotions. And he called me after the game comes to the pope after the game and then to his arms around me so it showed you our fellows affected that gay well show it Yeah. And you know what I'm asked to do a $2 gift certificates than a C in that game because they'll remember for the rest of their lives. And it was just it was just a great moment for DC messy as well but to see Liverpool I'll do Messi we've seen Andy Robinson st Vesey apart we seem to vaca d a messy messy so where della della live long in the memory so yeah to say I've had no affino absolute honor and privilege to watch Liverpool Football Club just as much for the people you meet. And so my greatest friends and the pure fans you know steam on all and you know from city Shankly traveled and give everything good you know for Liverpool unsaddled Omen obey every game and to so many Berlin Liverpool fans it will matter and it's been a pleasure to meet so it's give me as I say it's it's the staff has been a huge part of my life in technical parts of my life it lands land alone a lot I am shaped otherwise I am an A it's been an absolute privilege and now obviously with the food bank you get the opportunity to speak to some of the players and you know something I mean Anderson's fantastic what a person you've got, you know at the club, you've got people I told you about it now and as this as I mentioned, so number fields and gardens would be Gods you know the people there who actually cared and cared about the club and understand what it means to community because you know, Liverpool is often seen as as just right here something distance from the community should be locked off nowhere that you know it'd be open on a match day and then it was short and it was just like walls around they didn't do didn't do didn't be tilted to commute it was seen as it was seen it wasn't seen as something both funny enough within the unfilled area. And the way that it's changed that and obviously it's a huge resource what a resource it is. So that that mindset change so I think they've been on a journey as much as the football fans. What is your assessment coming into this year? Obviously we're in a different situation. No fans in the stadiums. You know, the compressed schedule seems like somebody who's been injured every week not just for Liverpool but for all the teams that are you know, they're suffering from injuries what what is your assessment moving forward from here and you still see that at the end of the day you know Liverpool will come out victorious and defend this title or semi gonna defend that army you know when you've got enough defended with people like club Milan and Anderson and you know, Robertson and unbelievable professionals no sense No, no, you can go to the mall, you know, don't plan to play for the girl But yeah, footballs like that, isn't it? You know, fantasize no entities, you know, we actually stole was no one the greatest, if not the greatest sense of privacy. And he was he was just motion to games now. No footballs like that is native changes. So you can mourn. You've got to adapt. You know, people have got to step up to the plate and Philips has been magnificence. A gold has now got the opportunity to shine. A lot Gomez. You know obviously if you're playing in vandyke shadow so all in plays he can he plays in it on Bates so Dale has to step up to the plate that young lads done a magnificent job almost but Philips have been usually impressed by it obviously for being you know, they're What a wonderful player I thought he was magnificent in this RV and then it's options a sense of assets magnificence, a sense of that. So he's got an interesting engine but you know, that's football so you don't moan about it club one, Willie. Now we'll have to find solutions to say to somebody plays in the squad. But unfortunately, and you know, when I think of an Allison back last week was massive, you know, place the cities back to the place from goalies there to just not a patch on the CC is one of the best have seen and you know, I think if you've got your goalkeeper, I think to lose and Diane Allison makes it extremely difficult there, you know, no, no defense in the Wales and our team in the world will not steal from that. So, so big fan, so I think people have just got to step up to the plate because I'm a sense of laugh. I'm still playing a 48 in the only team about playing next evasive. Just get your slippers out, wouldn't it? So, you know, now people have got it. It's just obviously the fact that matter to just slightly. I mean, we have to do different things. But you know, we still got the cases from clean the whales, in my opinion this collective and Thiago has come in and what we've seen of him It just looks after the whale class Disney we've got some well class footballers you know many many in Nazi so we can we can just look how we just say the league's gone because we haven't got plans a for now that lads know, as I say Philips, my comms road and out to the shadows, and become an oil beater. So analysis and blues better than cloth to do that. No one. Yeah, I was about to say I think in my opinion, clop actually enjoys this type of scenario where he can manipulate the lineup and formations and tactics, you know, and because for a long time, our team really picked itself the the first 11 really, you know, there's very few changes that you would need to make. So I think he be down he's enjoying breaking down film and looking at tendencies. And switching things around. And yeah, I mean, I think through this, you really like you had mentioned, you know, you're gonna find the strengths of Gomez and Phillips and Rhys Williams. And, and those type of players to, to really forge ahead, and you know, and the team will be even stronger by the time vandyke comes back. Yes, yeah, I'll be feeling so St. No, coach, BB mo. philipstown. Yeah, he is been a breath of fresh air. So, but yeah, you know, and as I say, you know, I'm sure I'm sure club one, you know, one lane of a man does want to lose and safe. But as I said, That's football, isn't it? You know, you've got to adapt and you can't just you can't build an inside at the official one player because then players can go at any Sam so it's got to be a collective and he's built a collective there. So you know, you look a lot Mascherano when he comment Liverpool, you want to talk for one minute cbsm laugh. He also Barcelona and the events themselves the sense of absolutely not so me, Jordan Anderson couldn't do that for the likes of being your boss. Or, you know, could Andy Robinson slip into the middle? You know, he's not as no one's as big as imposes fan day. But you'd have to, you know, you've got it, you've got to change. So, you know, I've got actually faith in Clark, the management team, No, they haven't put a foot wrong. they've improved players, and we just have to give it our best shot. And that's all you can do. We've, we've, we've done well, since there's our BBVA you know, since I mean, since the Aston Villa debacle, its fans are graded you know, let's not forget that. And you know, not was collectively just one of them games last name. So something? No, there's no, there's no fun that we've seen, you know, sissy on a nauseous your sofa, you know, Chelsea day, but everyone's in it's a really wide open league. I think if he didn't advance if he didn't foresee this year? Well, I think we did. We did run away with it To be honest, cuz we would have been a standout team. But no, from adversity, we get another one and get another sale. I mean, you know, we won the title. We are without Jarkko without charter. So I mean, you know, we've just added to it. So yeah. Just like clop says, you know, he's made a lot of Liverpool fans, you know, believers again, and yeah, I mean, the fans, I just want one player. Yeah, he's colossal photos, but we're not a one man team anymore. You know, like we used to be. So, yeah, I have em the positive thinking that we're going to do really well. You know, obviously, once we get to chrimbo. To see where we're at us, you know, like, you're just after after laugh, you know, sometimes at the evertonian Farms, you know, after winning five, you know, for four or five matches, you know that they're gonna win the league, and then they're brought up, back down. somewhere but same with you. We're seeing results that you probably will never have seen last season, you know, less the beaten Man City and then West unbeaten last day, you know, as last month Yeah. What's not on farms isn't there's no advantage to the, you know, model a gauge. It says, you know, the Aleksei in the game so just just on the pitch champion an empty stadium so you haven't got any advantage for the put Yeah, no evidence Evans on nearly well just leaps and bounds for some really good players and, and it is solvable plays, isn't it? You know, it's all about players and Tiago and Jada look like Lisa. Good, good, nice improvements to the scene. So yeah, it's vital, you know, and proper and all that and you know, all fleet. Rhys Jones or Phillips grabs that spot next to their pelvis. Really, I'm sorry, because that's what spots and we just a galvanized, obviously, we've got massive, massive bodies. Yes, sir, can I just I just want to do what you want, just as long as we can. While he's on the loop, I want to give a couple shout outs. Let's, let's shout out to LFC, Japan for winning the fan of the decades and Liverpool. What a What a great accomplishment. You know, obviously they've been on our show. And also let's our other guests from Las Vegas, Stacy. You know, she helped put together that video the James Milner video that they also won an award from the from Liverpool as James Milner Bori boring James Milner. Yeah, so everybody will link that to our website as well. So maybe we can get that make that video go viral, they did such a great job, you know, they won the most creative award, as part of the Liverpool foundations. This means more campaign. So we just want to, you know, give credit to where whereas do that we have so many great fans around the world and doing great things. And, you know, supporting the food bank, so keep supporting your local food banks, everyone and supporting the other charities that that you're doing because it is recognized that the the club level, all the efforts that all the supporters clubs, and all the fans are doing, you know, in their respective regions. So I wanted to shout out to everyone. Yeah. And also, if you're looking for something to read, and one of our friends john Pearman, who goes red all over the land, fun fanzine, please, please check, check him out. It's an amazing fanzine. So you can check that out and that all over the alarm.com. Ian is back. Welcome back. You look a lot happier now. Outside coaches. Yeah. You know, you mentioned him before he left the it's all about the players. Right. And, and one of the arguments that I've made recently when vandyke got injured. People say, Well, look what happened with Citi last year with Laporte, I said, you know, we have a better team. We have, you know, they they brought fabinho back to their defense, but they already had a bad defense. You know, we we have a good defense, we have a top notch, keeper and Allison. So I think our team is better equipped to handle this type of adversity than any other team in the league. That's for sure. No law. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'd go I'd go along with that. Obviously, I think selling Loveland and then putting it on the center last and maybe even someone of other Loveland site level you know that maybe we can look back and say but maybe as I say he's got feet in the two youngsters we've already mentioned there to step off you know and always got a the soap but you saw a motion with the case is four bucks in the St. Louis. ballclub and the game and know the game are their two cents. That's it. We mean that ball when he plays on the volley. You know, God said, the loves of their talents. You know, he's one of the best in the world and the sandy Robertson and Gomez was playing as good as last season. It was outstanding. So yeah, he's just got to get over there. He's got to get past that you've got you've lost us. You've got to get lost. You lost that we both know probably 40 someone gets injured. Someone's got to come into a job and then obviously the tactic side of a sexual wouldn't listen and an alderman people like data mill know you know, Dale Dale, keeping me motivated on the kitchen. And I think they'll know what to do that all the play for the best club in the world. So they're not enough offers it. You know, I've got to be phased in common to do more there. But yeah, you know, let's not get away from it. It's a lost it's also lost in the polls nearly as well because one day it was ugly is there was glazed in the polls nearly Yes. But as you say you've got to get on with it, it's not going to be and also the end of the season, potentially. So, you know, you've just got to put them out your mind and hopefully be back for next season. Remember, they're defending the lease for the fair family, and then we'll do your thing. I actually wouldn't be surprised if he's back for the season. So you know, the way clop saying like, he heals, as you know, very quickly, I mean, it'd be amazing, you know, if not, you know, if if, you know, we're still up there and somebody comes along in January, you know, a center half and Exactly. So, exactly, no, I just got a bit tired. So, you know, I've seen some keyboard warriors, obviously on the internet just throwing in the towel already. You know, big big virgin, like we said is a big loss. But again, like this team is to gold just just for I mean, right now we have eight players out injured, and we're still winning. Yeah, and that tells you something about this team tells you something about you know, cloth and pet that they just don't give up. You know, so yeah, I can't I can't wait to wait to lift with the trophy again. And then you know, hopefully this pan pandemic sods off and then me and Steve and get on a plane and come over come over cuz Yeah, we were we were coming over you know in in May for a big trophy lift and then obviously I'm Gemma captains and I just want to say I love tower kitted out and put up put a little thing yesterday said they can't wait for the pandemic to be over so we can go back to arguing about football across the table I think that's you know get get back to what what football is all about the enemy Miss if you know you miss you miss you miss seen see as I said you know to get going in the game and you know, we did a few bumps before the game but after the game you'll always get together and you'll have a class and say any goal down Westminister it's lovely to see combatir mates who you know you could almost read and give you the level of stiff with the always gives you an A and it's what you need. So I've missed out on a personal level just missing that that release files and obviously getting people's opinions on what you're doing. No one in the coffee is baffled and come forward with the boss who have done something in Parliament who don't agree with so it's a good but almost value zoom in because the donor back embassy shouldn't do and that's what you're there to do. So on the personal level have missed that. Yeah, massively but I just you just you just missed out the family side of it. You know, and, and obviously yourselves and you're watching the game over there and you can see the cop and all that scored in that and the cloud and the atmosphere. It just say it takes it into a different level. Is it as a spectator sport, isn't it and as you said before, you know, football without funds is nothing that's what we've always said and my god it's been a it's been proven that it really isn't a spectacle, you know, and I've watched from these games, I've added all the fields and watch it watch the kids football and enjoy it more than one on watching middle two fans at the moment. So yeah, it's a me but as you said, they relate to the end of the show, nobody will come to this as a no the will that come through with in our communities will come to a hopefully to a better place. And don't obviously, we'll appreciate their football because you know us long after this, but we've got whenever you know, you go every week and then sometimes every football fan club is lucky enough to live within the locality scene. And suppose you can be nothing becomes a chore because you've got everything around it but you become a bit glassy about that the games on it. You know, and I think being a big fan of many years. I mean, this is just my fear stakeholders may disagree on that. But sometimes you don't you don't appreciate him so it's not there too. Yeah. And I think I think what's on there and as for Sophie few people about destiny Vasa pretty much the same as well that if you just you forget how much it means to you. And obviously when it's taken away from you and you have a nice understanding of what you know what it should appreciate it a bit more when it's here. So I think the fares game buckle and feel that we shouldn't be holes there. Once we get a full stadium and get four people in. I don't know about what they're going to do. Obviously the you can get like 11,000 and things like that. It'll be exchange I don't want to do that to be honest I think that makes us wait till I can go back with everyone but we'll see so yeah we'll get there you'll get there like to see him get there and then you know the dashboard to get there but it's not just football in I know it's empty for sure for the moments and you know it doesn't matter to be a football fan basketball fan American football fan it's an insensitive party of life but also dead in the sense of past the community and we meet some ensure the sports club whatever you do in a local class to a you know, elite level to stay alive because it means so much she was on the mental health side but also was a passing community and was deeply into it. So you know, we've got governments we've got them ensure the sports they'll stand them once we get through this and wanted to ask you a question how much stick Did you get from your colleagues in Parliament when we lost the league by one point and Did you get any retribution last year after we won? Well look we know for Muslim Parliament so all Devonian never seen only embassy in the majority as far as sad which is nice. But you know, obviously when we lost the league, I mean it was a great season we played one of the greatest teams and Premier League st in city and then we get one of the greatest performances we've ever gave so that was just a I think that was a joy to actually be a pastor but now obviously winning the European Cup is up considerably doesn't what we felt but you know that's that was that was just as it was a momentous battle. And you know, know you've always got to be shaken a football net you know, that's what Liverpool fans have always been a football fan should always even so called Messi before I wanted to ensure that even if he got knocked out you know, European Cup that you've actually seen him you know, I you know, I was lucky enough to see Madonna so you know it's sort of not only be able to sell my grandkids and as men or watch him and I watched the matters on the show with me the film missions and you know for me is still the greatest I've ever lived in everything daddy john so you know, but I wanted them because they look messy and they do as well to be honest but they've actually seen them now in the flesh. So I think it's important so interesting. You know think about toys for those who want to go and watch and you know and I suppose people that love football you know these people it's been a joy to watch and we can all go down know a list of some that I mean a lot of watching TV on be you know, even though it sounds over many many sounds passing through the air there a lot of key post goals one of my favorites ever footballers gigs any pump they still have passageway your candy cobian probably the best to Java like the scene together and they'll share that we can talk about but they back army you know not not non Liverpool Football players who it's been a pleasure to watch so it's just a band and love of footballers balls they need a PC to the players and Liverpool fans I mean now from that and you've got that that sort of that should always be in our DNA. Yeah, doesn't I we can't choose me Can't wait to travel opens up back up and come back to Liverpool and invite and have a big party with all our guests that we've had on our podcast you know, yeah. Yeah, yes. Right. So so you know as we wind down and we just want to say thank you for taking time out today. I know this would probably be the least stressful part of your your week you know with all the issues that are going on, you know, politically there in Liverpool. So we do appreciate you you you sharing your stories with us sharing your love of Liverpool and just also the current situation there politically so you know, hopefully that you know, we'll we'll get over there soon and we get to to have a pint together Oh, look forward to seeing the parodies No, it's been a it's been a pleasure to be understood as you say this last just last fall and also sometimes just in our debate sort of them on football is a is a really is a bit of bonus obviously we've got two games tonight so on there and looking forward to they're watching and watching them tonight So yeah, it's been an absolute pleasure in and really do appreciate it and I'm glad you know we find finally got got got you on from going back and forth on Twitter. No, no, no. No user got out of bed. Well, don't you Yeah, it's easy at all now just got to stay away with the mastics and the last. But no, no, it's been a pleasure and all the great work you do in publicizing events but also equally important. What the fans are doing both in the Liverpool and Everton over the and I think it's important in America that we get that message across and solidarity and what we're doing already and and you know, and what we're doing collectively because that's key. So for the 90 minutes on the football pitch, we can you can cause to the show that I'm missing give each other staff but when we come off over there, you know what all will all pass at the same community and that's what we always like to say to their publishers and portion. Yeah, but honestly, users news app used on me a bigger favor today than ABS on you believe me to spend an hour reminiscence on mobile of appeal. So it's been an absolute joy and happy to call my nanny Sam board the backsides off you in yellow Madison listens, Ma, we'll get you back off after the lecture. Yeah, hopefully in a week or two, we'll, we'll all be a lot happier. But er work? Where can the listeners like? Find out more about the food banks? As you say, Let yourself just go on Twitter, go onto Twitter, just put in a fun support food banks. And then you know, what I'd ask you to do is the listeners it's a follow was and just retweet what some of the things that were put on our data disability itself, and certainly the international stuff that goes out and I think it just builds up this community feel of solidarity and we are okay, we've got a we've got a we've got an ocean between us but we haven't you know, we can we can we can connect crises you know, calm and I think it's important. And I think that's been a big part of transforming a bunch of people from feel part of it. And they can help their own communities by being part of it. So if anyone wants to get involved in fun sport superbanks, me and safe below we see licenses to talk about it, to speak about it in simpler motion, so as to say but always available. So if anyone wants to do anything, it'll automatically just let us know. I'm actually talking to Dave at the moment as well to bring bring him on on the speedo mech. So Oh, yes, please. I'll make sound can you get save on the last day of a five hour special? Because you won't get an hour out of data B first answer. So people can a bog Baltic Bay people. Yeah, but Daz is gonna wear a speedo when we get Speedo mix. So it'll be leaving out a huge mess. And let's not leave anyone else. I'm starting to feel sad. Speedo max just a one off three days. He's a character on a scenario where he's on phenomenal. And it's great. And it's like a little family. Well, you know, we'll see it the games and we all know each other. And we're all helping each other pinging off each other. There's many little organizations about Liverpool's development that at all, we're together, you mentioned kitted out Paul from kits, and I was and Michelle superiorly people. And it is like a little football has come a lot of mutual aid wares and you know people out in the communities and speak clearly and so watch and it's a long, long way to continue because football can do so much good for society. It's not just about 90 minutes on the pitch. It's what people collectively can do together and then there as I say it's a message with all we saw football so yeah, it's been a pleasure boys. Yeah, that's a pleasure for us to us one thing he signed to the podcast, it's basically it is a Liverpool Football Club podcast, but it's also about also about Liverpool community and the people. So you know, we don't mind a couple of evertonians comment on you know, what one once again, but that's it. No more No no. as valuable to those who is one of the co founders knees he's he's he's upon the last one. He's He's one of the most pets that ever sold me as a no. So you know, you follow his recipes when the mudroom well, services magnificent to watch you know the legs as No, like he hasn't been so volatile lately. But now let's see what happens to the Latins available now with as I say, 90 minutes. No billions. And then obviously once you come off the pitch, and there's big issues, as most of you all know, football, you know, we saw more potent meals on it on people's tables and keep the keep people fed and bosses. And that's what we're focusing on in Liverpool at the moment and across the country. So yeah, yeah, Gator species, as I say, so you should stay safe, fingers crossed. You know, bad winds and then we can then we can come back and have a conversation about politics and whether we're ever going to be in a moving forward. I use one cliche to the army. Thank you.